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"More times than not, you don't have a dislike for the people that actually went to Michigan. It's the thousands and thousands of bandwagon people that jump on there, that went all over, went to community college and all of the sudden they're Michigan fans because Michigan's No. 1 in the nation."

amen. same goes with notre dame, usc, and miami.
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Smith staying with Spartans? It'll take a miracle

October 3, 2006

Some advice for Michigan State coach John L. Smith: When rival Michigan wins by 30 this weekend, don't -- under any circumstance -- say you don't know how to fix your broken wagon.
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'); }It just might lead to a quick exit from East Lansing.
Wasn't so long ago that Bobby Williams uttered the words, "I don't know," when he was asked if he had lost his team after a 49-3 clobbering by Michigan.
Two days later, he was fired.
Nothing short of a sweep of Michigan and Ohio State over the next two weeks will save Smith, a likeable guy and a damn good coach at Idaho, Utah State and Louisville. Sparty has as much a chance of winning those two games as I have growing hair. Ain't gonna happen.
So where does Michigan State go from here? The obvious choice is Iron Mountain, Mich., native Steve Mariucci. A favorite son of the state -- he was a three-time All-American quarterback at Northern Michigan -- and a guy whose personality is a perfect fit for the college game. I always thought Mariucci never gave the college game enough of a chance, leaving California after one season to jump to the NFL with the 49ers.
Mariucci, though, still is getting a ton of dough from the Lions and might not want to jump back into the meat grinder after one season away from the game. And who's to say he won't return to the NFL after recharging with a couple of seasons in the college game (see: Dennis Erickson).
Before too long, Michigan State will be slapped with reality: This likely will be a big season of coaching turnover, with many plum jobs available (Texas A&M, NC State, North Carolina, Miami, Arizona State). And frankly, Michigan State isn't too high on that list when it comes to 1.) ability to win, and 2.) ability to sustain.
In other words, if you're going to make a change, you better make sure you've got your man lined up. Or it will get a lot worse than some meaningless loss to Illinois.
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And frankly, Michigan State isn't too high on that list when it comes to 1.) ability to win, and 2.) ability to sustain.
In other words, if you're going to make a change, you better make sure you've got your man lined up. Or it will get a lot worse than some meaningless loss to Illinois.
It is this part of the equation which has John L. Smith firmly etched on the latest Spartan coaching tombstone.
They simply should not, nay cannot, wait.
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Ray McNulty: UM job not that attractive anymore



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October 1, 2006



Can the University of Miami find a better football coach than Larry Coker?
Probably.


Can the school's suits get one of those better coaches to take the job if Coker is fired after this season?
Maybe.
But it's far from a sure thing.
Truth is, bringing a great coach to UM ? and keeping him there ? won't be easy.
Because it's not a great job.
It's not a job that young coaches dream about. It might not be in college football's top 25.
Certainly, it's not as good a job as Hurricanes fans think it is.
If it were, all of those terrific UM coaches of yesteryear ? Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Dennis Erickson and Butch Davis ? wouldn't have left.
At the very least, one of them would've stayed for more than five or six years.
But none of them did.
And why did they leave?
For better jobs.
There are plenty of them out there . . . and not just in the NFL.
That's what too many Hurricanes fans ? especially those "Fire Coker" yahoos responsible for the banner-dragging airplanes that circled the Orange Bowl before UM's game Saturday against Houston ? don't understand.
They've deluded themselves into thinking every top-shelf coach in America wants to come to Coral Gables.
They talk about those five national championships. They talk about all those first-round draft picks. They talk about the wealth of home-grown talent in South Florida and the mystique of the Orange Bowl.
It's what Hurricanes fans don't talk about, however, that makes UM a second-tier job.
They don't talk about the increased competition, from both inside and outside the state, for the local talent.
They don't talk about the lack of an on-campus stadium.
They don't talk about a fair-weather fan base that clings to unrealistic expectations and abandons the season after one loss.
To an established coach who already has proven he can win, those things matter.
He wants the best players in the area and around the state to want to come to his school. He wants an on-campus stadium filled with devoted fans that stand by their team. He wants to build a classy, winning program everyone at the school can be proud of.
Yes, UM has a tremendous winning tradition. But rooting for the Hurricanes is like rooting for an NFL team. There's no rah-rah, college-football feel to the program.
Can you even hum the fight song?
So it's silly to think the Hurricanes might steal a premier coach from a marquee program.
Bob Stoops isn't going to leave Oklahoma to come to UM. Same goes for Georgia's Mark Richt. Heck, the Hurricanes might not be able to get Bobby Petrino away from Louisville.
But, hey, I hear Gary Barnett is available.
Chances are, though, UM will either find some young coach on the rise or promote someone from within the program, such as defensive coordinator Randy Shannon.
If the Hurricanes go young, however, you can expect the new coach will stay only as long as he needs to ? which means until he gets a better offer from the NFL or elsewhere in college football.
And if they stay within the UM family? There's no guarantee that things will get better.
The UM suits again could find themselves sitting in that eyesore known as the Orange Bowl, looking up at airplanes dragging banners telling them to fire the football coach.
The coaches change. The yahoos don't.
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Best line in the article.
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John L. Smith's seat is hot; his Spartans aren't
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EAST LANSING, Mich. - John L. Smith didn't commit three straight penalties, throw a game-losing interception or fumble near his team's and the opponent's goal line the past two Saturdays.
The fourth-year Michigan State coach did three worse things in the eyes of a frustrated fan base. His players coughed up a 16-point lead in the closing minutes of a prime-time giveaway to Notre Dame. They were unprepared to play and dominated the next week by Illinois, a 26 1/2-point underdog. And Smith, 21-20 with the Spartans, was ridiculed after bizarre reactions to both defeats.
"We have the answers!" Smith said with his usual enthusiasm. "I just wasn't able to get them to focus on the correct answer, I guess, at that time."

Granted, Michigan State has survived worse starts than a 3-2 record with two three-point losses. It played in the Gator Bowl on Jan. 1, 1989, after an 0-4-1 start and shared its last Big Ten title in 1990 after starting 2-3-1.
But with key injuries and psychological questions, the Spartans could be looking at a 3-4 mark, four straight losses and a third straight year with no bowl trip if things don't improve Saturday at No. 6 Michigan or the following week against No. 1 Ohio State.
Another disappointing finish for a program that has been 1-4, 1-4 and 1-6 down the stretch since Smith's arrival from Louisville could mean another coaching change. It would be Michigan State's ninth in the 34 years.
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