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08-05-2005, 04:47 PM
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08-06-2005, 12:17 AM
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Furthermore, if they're gonna ban "Seminoles" of "Illini", what are they gonna do about Miami University? All three are the names of nations (albeit nations that were decimated by genocidal westward expansion) - It's no different than naming your team the Americans or the Brazlians. MIAMI though is the name of the university. If they're gonna ban those nicknames, then shouldn't they ban that university name as well? What kind of cluster[censored] would that be? The intent is in the right place I think, but the execution (blanket actions against isolated instances of poor taste, as somebody said) is all wrong.
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08-06-2005, 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by DEBuckeye
...Why don't the Indian groups look around, and notice that they're really the only ones bitching. Why is it that they get so bent out of shape- none of the people represented by the following groups seem to care...
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Actually, a lot of the time, if not most of the time, it's non-Indian groups that are bitching.
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08-06-2005, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye
Actually, a lot of the time, if not most of the time, it's non-Indian groups that are bitching.
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No kidding. All the Native Americans are either dead or assimilated.
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08-06-2005, 01:09 AM
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The intent is in the right place I think, but the execution is all wrong.[/quote] actually not one single thing in the intent is right. the exact phrasing of the ncaa is Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive". this is political correct bull[censored]. how in gods name do a couple people get together and decide for the whole country what is hostile or abusive. why dont they just cut to the chase and say they dont want schools to use indian mascots. there is absolutely nothing either hostile or abusive about for example the fighting illini mascot name but we are supposed to let a few dip[censored]s decide for 200 million people what can or cant be a mascot.redskins, and drunkin braves WOULD be offensive mascots; braves,warriors,chiefs etc are honorable names and honorable mascots, dont let a few idiots force their views on the rest of the country.most schools have mascots that represent someone or something that they find honorable or noteworthy and it should be up to the school to decide what their mascot can or cant be. if they are going to ban indian mascots for schools then they better damn well ban em for all schools. i.e. there are high schools in my area that have almost exclusively native indian population and i am gonna demand that THEY have their indian mascot banned from the field when they play again our local highschools, after all i dont want my 4 year old running from the stands because she sees that hostile and abusive native american mascot who happens to be portrayed by an honest to goodness native american.
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08-06-2005, 01:38 AM
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I get the feeling this is gonna end up in another forum pretty soon...
The phrase "hostile or abusive" is just fine. The error is the thinking that that phrase applies to more than just a few incidences. It shouldn't apply to names like "Illini" or "Seminoles". It shouldn't apply to institutions that use portray others with care and respect. It SHOULD apply to places that make a complete mockery of other cultures and make caricatures of others' traditions.
We're alot closer in opinion on this issue than you think. What I was saying is that the NCAA should reserve the right to ban names and portrayals like "redskins" and "drunken braves" while continuing to allow names like "Illini", etc. where it is done with respect.
To sum up, I think the rule is OK, but it should be enforced with discretion, not universally.
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Ohio State versus M*ch*g*n trumps everything. It trumps your record. It trumps whether it's dangerous or you don't have a chance or any of those kinds of things. It trumps all things because it's the Ohio State-M*ch*g*n game. And I would like to think our guys understand that, but there's only one demonstration of understanding that and that's at 12:00 noon on Saturday.
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08-06-2005, 05:51 AM
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