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Old 11-17-2005, 11:10 AM
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Can't deal with the formatting in the stats, but I like your point. No WR will make the difference, at least not from the offensive side of the ball. Maybe on special teams, but that doesn't count.
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Can't deal with the formatting in the stats, but I like your point. No WR will make the difference, at least not from the offensive side of the ball. Maybe on special teams, but that doesn't count.
Yeah, I don't know what that's all about.... working on it.
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Limiting your audience quite a bit, aren't you.

Now... since I don't care, I didn't read your post... however, I'm not sure why your Opinion isn't good enough...its fine... don't worry about the dude... but its okay for others to worry about him.

What I'm saying is... that if all this karmic energy that you're putting into not worry about this kid comes back to bite you in the ass if this kid beats us on the last play, or goes all Braylon Edwards on us... I will ding you to oblivion, you jinxing [censored].
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Limiting your audience quite a bit, aren't you.

Now... since I don't care, I didn't read your post... however, I'm not sure why your Opinion isn't good enough...its fine... don't worry about the dude... but its okay for others to worry about him.

What I'm saying is... that if all this karmic energy that you're putting into not worry about this kid comes back to bite you in the ass if this kid beats us on the last play, or goes all Braylon Edwards on us... I will ding you to oblivion, you jinxing [censored].
Fair enough. I hear oblvion is nice this time of year.
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I don't think anybody putting up big numbers will be the different in the recieving game...but maybe a guy like Manningham could catch a game winning TD pass. As far as somebody who completely takes over the game...it won't be a reciever. It would either be a guy like Henne, or Hart. Or for the Buckeyes Smith or Pittman. If any reciever could take over the game, I think it would be Ted Ginn Jr. But this would also include special teams play. Both teams are probably going to at least and try to spread the ball around.
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I don't think anybody putting up big numbers will be the different in the recieving game...but maybe a guy like Manningham could catch a game winning TD pass. As far as somebody who completely takes over the game...it won't be a reciever. It would either be a guy like Henne, or Hart. Or for the Buckeyes Smith or Pittman. If any reciever could take over the game, I think it would be Ted Ginn Jr. But this would also include special teams play. Both teams are probably going to at least and try to spread the ball around.
True, Manningham could catch the game winner.... it's just as likely that Devon Lyons does or Roy Hall or Marcel Frost is all I'm saying.

Otherwise, I agree with what you say (obviously)
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WRs may not be the biggest difference makers, but they sure do help the quarterback and the running game if they are playing well...not to mention clutch catches. They are all gears in the same machine, but the WR position has the ability to break one moreso than anyone else IMO

The WR that made the biggest difference in The Game that came to mind to me was Woodson in '97, but he did it in the return game and on defense as well...I saw the game last night and got a chance to get caught up again thanks to ESPN Classic...he sure as hell was a great distraction on offense and made some clutch plays, definitely helped the Michigan offense. He was definitely the difference maker in that one
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Fair enough. I hear oblvion is nice this time of year.
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If any receiver takes over the game from the offensive side of the ball it will be Santonio Holmes. We all know about the skills of TGII, Breaston, Gonzo and others, but Holmes is by far the best of the bunch. There really isn't a comparison to anyone else on the field as far as WR on offense is concerned. I'm with you guys that nobody will win this game from the receiver position, but if we are all wrong Holmes is the only one with the ability to do it, given the defenses that will be on the field.
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WRs may not be the biggest difference makers, but they sure do help the quarterback and the running game if they are playing well...not to mention clutch catches. They are all gears in the same machine, but the WR position has the ability to break one moreso than anyone else IMO

The WR that made the biggest difference in The Game that came to mind to me was Woodson in '97, but he did it in the return game and on defense as well...I saw the game last night and got a chance to get caught up again thanks to ESPN Classic...he sure as hell was a great distraction on offense and made some clutch plays, definitely helped the Michigan offense. He was definitely the difference maker in that one
Stanley Jackson's QB play didn't help.

The only WR I can think of that was truly the diff was Boston in 98.

I'm not saying the passing game isn't an important part of the game, and it's not somehting to worry about at all. I'm bolstering my argument from yesterday that Manningham is not likley to be the guy to worry about. I picked Henne, and as I thought about it I decided I should have picked Hart. So goes the running game, so goes the game.
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edit: i guess you are admitting the passing game will be a big factor.

I don't think a WR has to be Boston to have a big impact on the game. Edwards and Holmes both had huge impacts on last year's game. If our typical DL play had showed up that game (they just got beat all day), the 250 yds from Holmes/Jenkins and 2 tds would have been enough.
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Passing game will be a factor, is all I "admitted" to. That is, part of football is, obviously, passing.

In fact, as "big factor" goes, I think what I posted is quite the opposite. 4 of 6 times the team with more passing yards lost and one of those times OSU bumbled away a victory by costly TO's.

Furthermore, who said anything about impact? Playing at home had an impact. The weather had an impact. I'm talking about the difference.
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I'm [censored]ing baffled... wy is everyone using "Likely" and "Typical" and "Wiil be this and Won't be that."

Nothing is normal... this is the [censored]ING GAME.

The Difference? Is probably going to be one big play... Might be by Mannignham... he might "make" the play.... someone might slip.

Could be 10-7... the "Difference Maker might be an up man on a squib kickoff... big return... big fumble...

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I'm [censored]ing baffled... wy is everyone using "Likely" and "Typical" and "Wiil be this and Won't be that."

Nothing is normal... this is the [censored]ING GAME.

The Difference? Is probably going to be one big play... Might be by Mannignham... he might "make" the play.... someone might slip.

Could be 10-7... the "Difference Maker might be an up man on a squib kickoff... big return... big fumble...

Day is night, Night is Day.
Quite right. Lets hope its some one wearing the right colors.
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