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The Wonderlic Test is 50 questions long, with the questions starting off easy and increasing in difficulty as you go. You are given 12 minutes to get as many as you can get done.
Seeing how Vince Young re-took the exact same test(Same questions, same order) the very next day on a test that has a time limit, I'm kinda feeling I should go with that 7.
I'm sure some people can figure out why I'm seeing the problem on his second score. Since it was the exact same test, he already knew what questions were on the test. Meaning he had more time to spend on the other questions.
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03-19-2006, 12:10 PM
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I'm not sure what's in the Wonderlic, but I assume it to be some kind of general knowledge test and that the score produced gives us some kind of a profile as to where the taker stands in comparison to most Americans, or most other college students, or most other college football players. Without knowing what it measures and what the sample consists of, we're really guessing as to it's meaning. Off the top, it might be interesting to know how Wonderlic scores compare to ACT/SAT scores. Might lead to some interesting questions as to how some managed to qualify to enter certain schools.
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The Wonderlic essentially measures decision making under pressure, and it'd be fair to say reading comprehension. The test is 50 questions in 12 minutes. The questions are generally comically easy -- the most simple of IQ or SAT type questions -- to the point where anyone with a college education should reasonably score between 40-50 if the test were untimed. The problem is the 12 minute clock, which means you've got less than 15 seconds per question.
The test is not only merciless for people with learning disabilities, but to anyone who simply reads slow or overanalyzes their test answers. As an example, Krenzel's score wasn't that great.
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/closer/020228test.html
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VY gets a 7, but wants to cut out on his college education early. Good call.
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03-19-2006, 02:48 PM
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VY gets a 7, but wants to cut out on his college education early. Good call.
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Ditto.....We all know he can play ball,but god knows there's skills he doesn't even know he needs that are gonna be demanded from him now...It's hard to believe there was someone that could have been worse then Marcus Vick.... |
03-20-2006, 03:45 PM
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I think Donovan McNabb scored a 12 and he's not bad. Also, for some reason I think that Dan Marino's score was pretty low too.
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03-20-2006, 04:01 PM
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
POSTED 12:34 p.m. EST, March 20, 2006
WONDERLIC GETTING A MAKEOVER
A league source tells us that the folks who run the scouting combine will overhaul starting in 2007 the procedures for grading the Wonderlic test.
Moving forward, the tests will be sent out to an independent firm, who will perform the grading and then send the results to the individual teams.
This change is the direct result of the single-digit score generated by Texas quarterback Vince Young last month. The test initially was graded as a six by a combine employee, and on further review the score was changed to a seven. Because of the error, Young was permitted to re-take the test the next day (but supposedly a different version of it) and he scored a 15.
We've previously reported that he only answered 33 of the 50 question in his second shot at the test.
In our view, the decision to send the results out to an independent firm primarily was designed to prevent a repeat of the furor that erupted in Indy when word got out of Young's low score. Now, the tests won't even be looked at by anyone in Indy, and most likely won't be scored until after all of the attendees have dispersed.
This new procedure also eliminates the likelihood of any future combine do-overs, since the player won't know how poorly he might have scored so soon after sitting for the exam.
So under this new approach, the end result this year would have been an official score of seven for Vince Young.
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03-20-2006, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cincibuck
I'm not sure what's in the Wonderlic, but I assume it to be some kind of general knowledge test and that the score produced gives us some kind of a profile as to where the taker stands in comparison to most Americans, or most other college students, or most other college football players. Without knowing what it measures and what the sample consists of, we're really guessing as to it's meaning. Off the top, it might be interesting to know how Wonderlic scores compare to ACT/SAT scores. Might lead to some interesting questions as to how some managed to qualify to enter certain schools.
I always took pride in the fact that the OSU I entered and graduated from was open to ALL Ohio students who managed to graduate from an accredited Ohio high school. No one could say they didn't get a chance to make it at the college level. It seemed to me that that was/is/should be the purpose of a public college.
When Andy Katzenmoyer got roasted in SI for taking cup cake courses in order to remain eligible I could always justify it on the basis that he was a student admitted and tracked by the same rules that applied to any other person on campus. That seemed to me to be a much more honest situation than when a certain Heisman trophy winner from a school that likes to refer to itself as, "The Harvard of the West" tried to answer questions in an interview and couldn't speak in complete sentences. |
the columbus campus is now a closed enrollment school.
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03-20-2006, 04:49 PM
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I found some (fifteen) sample questions on a website. How many can you answer correctly in 3 minutes and 36 seconds? (i.e. you 12 minutes at answer 50 questions or 14.4 seconds per question) No cheating!!!
Wonderlic Sample Test
This set of questions is from the Wonderlick Assessment Test. The Wonderlic (tm) Personnel test is used to assess candidates for college placement or by a variety of employers, the Wonderlic Personnel Test (WPT) is a general test of problem solving ability that many consider to be the best measure of intelligence. The WPT provides the individual's ability to cope with the complexities of any particular occupation. The general consensus among psychologists is that cognitive ability--as tested on the Wonderlic--is the most reliable predictor of an individual's professional performance. See how well you do with this sample test.
<TABLE class=MsoNormalTable id=table3 height=1860 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> 1. Look at the row of numbers below. What number should come next? ___________
8 4 2 1 1/2 1/4 ?
2. Assume the first two statements are true.
* The boy plays baseball.
* All baseball players wear hats.
* The boy wears a hat
Is the final one:
True
False
Not Certain
3. Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will four pads cost? ___________
4. How many of the five pairs listed below are exact duplicates? ___________
<TABLE class=MsoNormalTable id=table4 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Nieman, K. M.
</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Neiman, K. M.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Thomas, G. K.
</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Thomas, C. K.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Hoff, J. P.
</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Hoff, J. P.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Pino, L. R.
</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Pina, L. R.
</TD></TR><TR><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Warner, T. S.
</TD><TD style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt"> Wanner, T. S.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
5. PRESENT/RESERVE, Do these words:
have similar meanings;
have contradictory meaning;
mean neither the same nor opposite?
6. One of the number figures in the following drawing is most different from the others.
What is the number in that figure? ___________
7. A train travels 20 feet in 1/5 second. At this same speed, how many feet will it travel in
three seconds? ___________
8. When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how many feet can you buy for sixty cents? ___________
9. The ninth month of the year is:
October
January
June
September
May
10. Which number in the following group of numbers represent the smallest amount? _________
7 .8 31 .33 2
11. In printing an article of 48,000 words, a printer decides to use two sizes of type. Using the
larger type, a printed page contains 1,800 words. Using a smaller type, a page contains
2,400 words. The article is allotted 21 full pages in a magazine. How many pages must be
in smaller type? ___________
12. The hours of daylight and darkness in September are nearest equal to the hours of daylight
and darkness in:
June
March
May
November;
13. Three individuals form a partnership and agree to divide the profits equally. X invests
$9,000, Y invests $7,000, Z invests $4,000. If the profits are $4,800, how much less
does x receive compared to having the profits divided in proportion to the amounts
invested by X, Y, and Z?
14. Assume the first two statements are true.
* Tom greeted Beth.
* Beth greeted Dawn
* Tom did not greet Dawn
Is the final one:
True
False
Not Certain
15. A boy is 17 years old and his sister is twice as old. When the boy is 23 what will be the age
of his sister? ___________
Answers
http://www.professormoney.com/wonder...ple%20test.htm
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