Notre Dame (football only discussion)

[Buckeye86]

Originally Posted by sammyjenkis

Dude, they probably lost to at least one high school team. Is there a place to find info on that?

here

however, making fun of a team for losses before 1920 is pretty silly considering the game was completely different and any resemblance to the modern game is in name only

the only thing sillier would be to brag about wins from that era and to feel some sort of superiority because of them... oh wait, mock away

[DaddyBigBucks]

CFN

Who Does the Least with the Most?

Clemson actually got more mentions, but the story-picture is of Charlie Weis and the best cases are made for the Irish.

Jon Miller, Publisher, HawkeyeNation.com

Q: Which program perennially does the least with the most?</SPAN>

A: Over the past five to ten years, the answer to that question is Notre Dame and I am not sure it?s even close. This is a team that has advantages that every program outside of two or three dream about, and yet they won their first bowl game last year since the early 1990?s. They have been less than impressive under Charlie Weiss despite having recruiting classes that are routinely ranked in the Top 25, or much better than that. When you look at their departure in their final ranking (or lack thereof) from their preseason magazine consensus rankings in the years they have been rated since 2000 (six times), the Irish are on top of this dubious category. However, Michigan is a team that has performed well below their preseason ratings going back to 1989, more so than any other program in football. Then again, they haven?t tanked out of the Top 25 like Notre Dame has until just the past season.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by DaddyBigBucks

CFN

Who Does the Least with the Most?

Clemson actually got more mentions, but the story-picture is of Charlie Weis and the best cases are made for the Irish.

That answer has win. A slag on N_tre _ame and scUM? Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

[jwinslow]

Just don't ask that writer how that top-10 class in 05 worked out for them.

[Jaxbuck]

They both suck but if I had to pick I'd take TB over CW. Bowden has some of the Zooker in him, he'll lose a lot and often lose to some team he has no business losing to but every once in a while he'll beat someone he shouldn't.

Despite what the Domers will tell you CW has yet to register a signature win over anyone of note (that means I don't count a close loss to USC or Hawaii as signature wins).

If you held a gun to my head and said I had to pick one of them to be the next HC at OSU I guess I'd take Bowden...then I'd think about it a minute or two longer, tell you to [censored] yourself and just go ahead and shoot me.

[jwinslow]

As Notre Dame's TV Money Dwindles, So Too Should Its Independence -- NCAA Football FanHouse

As Notre Dame's TV Money Dwindles, So Too Should Its Independence

Posted Jun 15, 2009 11:45PM By Clay Travis

In 1990, Notre Dame signed a glitzy football television contract with NBC. The deal revolutionized college athletics and brought millions into Notre Dame's bank account. It was a huge financial windfall that guaranteed the Fighting Irish would remain independent from other conferences.

Chances are, you still think that Notre Dame is banking major revenue from this agreement in comparison to other teams. Chances are, you're wrong. What do Vanderbilt and Northwestern have in common when it comes to football? Answer: They likely both get more money for their televised football games than Notre Dame does. As does every other team in the Big Ten and the SEC.

Notre Dame doesn't release their finances publicly, but there is zero doubt that a colossal rewriting of collegiate athletics has occurred in the 19 years since the Irish and NBC first became television partners. How has this happened? Television has a voracious appetite and hours of programming to fill. Bundling and selling a major conference to ESPN's network of properties, as the SEC has done, or creating their own network while selling some games to ESPN, as the Big Ten has done, is more valuable now than selling one great property, like Notre Dame football. In college sports, the whole is truly greater than its parts.

In 2008, NBC ponied up an extension to the Fighting Irish television contract. USA Today reported that the current contract paid Notre Dame in the neighborhood of $9 million per year. The new deal won't begin until 2010, but it's doubtful the rights fees increased very much, since Notre Dame's television ratings have been dwindling for several years. (Last season, the average Notre Dame game on NBC drew less than half the ratings that CBS and ABC averaged for their college football games.)

The Irish also bring in a share of revenue from the Big East for basketball. But that number is set contractually and isn't particularly large.

For example, Syracuse, a member of the Big East for football and basketball, took in just $4.7 million from the Big East in 2007. Even assuming that Notre Dame gets half of this number (which it likely doesn't, because football floats the boat in college athletics), Notre Dame's television and shared Big East conference revenue in 2009 will be, at best, $11.35 million.

Why's that number important? Because in 2008, every school in the Big Ten will clear north of $15 million from the conference, a number that will only increase in years to come. Every school in the SEC will bank, conservatively, $17 million.

Let me repeat that, the Big Ten Network alone has almost equaled the payout for Notre Dame's sacrosanct contract with NBC.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Let me repeat that, the Big Ten Network alone has almost equaled the payout for Notre Dame's sacrosanct contract with NBC.

Ty Willingham's fault!!!!!!

[Bucklion]

Wait, you mean a perennial 7-5 team playing a service academy or a bottom feeder 4-5 times a year doesn't draw a huge audience? Who knew?

[1926Buckeyes]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

Wait, you mean a perennial 7-5 team playing a service academy or a bottom feeder 4-5 times a year doesn't draw a huge audience? Who knew?

Well with the returning talent on offense and their schedule, they should win at least 9 or 10. It'd be a major dissapointment if they didn't.

I'm not surprised that the ratings have suffered. Usually I'd at least tune in a for a little of a game, but I haven't bothered recently and neitehr have many people probably. God knows what will happen though if they do win 9 or 10. A media orgasm.

[BB73]

Cory McCartney selling some kool-aid with the softened schedule.

SI.com

Favorable schedule could be Notre Dame's ticket back to BCS

Stir the echoes. Grab a clover. Prod ?ber-fan Regis Philbin. Notre Dame (dramatic drum roll, please) could well play in a BCS bowl this season.
Yes, Notre Dame, the same team that won 10 games the past two seasons, that marched to an abysmal 3-9 record in 2007 (that campaign, the worst in Notre Dame's 120-plus-year history, was so forgettable the school omitted it from its media guide), that lost to lowly Syracuse at home in 2008.
Those last two seasons have landed coach Charlie Weis on a seat hot enough to melt South Bend's 70.8 inches of annual snowfall, but the Irish could return to relevance in a matter of months. No, I'm not mad, and no, I haven't had too much to drink at Weis' annual Hannah & Friends celebrity gala (though Digger Phelps does mix a mean Tom Collins).

Cont'd ...

[NextBuck]

1. The team that has completed the most this decade with the least is Virginia Tech. Notre Dame always has Top 15 recruiting classes.

2. If Notre Dame doesn't win 10 games with that crap schedule, and all their returning starters then damn.

3. I don't think Weis is a bad coach when you give him developed players who need that extra nudge (his first two years at ND). I think his problem is that he can't develop high school seniors into All Americans. They basically look and play the same as they did in high school

[BB73]

SI.com

Sources: Notre Dame, Army to play at Yankee Stadium

Army and Notre Dame have reached a deal to meet in 2010 at Yankee Stadium, multiple Army sources have confirmed. The 2010 game won't be the end of Army playing in the new ballpark in the Bronx. According to one source, Army will host one game against undetermined opponents at Yankee Stadium in the 2011, '12 and '13 seasons. Sources said Army is expected to announce more details early next week at a news conference, which could be held at Yankee Stadium.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Even if ND were to lose only to USC and go 11-1, their schedue doesn't warrant a BCS invite.

[Steve19]

I still think they could lose to TSUN this year. If they do, the meltdown on Domer boards will be fun to watch.

[Deety]

LINK

Holtz couldn't speak much louder than a whisper after coaching a group of former Notre Dame players for three days as they practiced for an exhibition game in Japan. He still sounded like his old self, though, hardly giving his team a chance against the Japanese.

"If Rudy came back he would be our star," Holtz said of the school's most famous walk-on. "And Charlie Weis runs faster than any running back we have."