Notre Dame (football only discussion)

[23Skidoo]

Originally Posted by Thump

Who else would you have #1?

I personally have no problem with it.

I'd look for someone like the Lions to snag him at 1 or 2 if they get the chance.

It's not that he is #1 thats funny -- it's Mel's commentary that follows.
But, if I was an NFL scout -- which I'm definitely not -- I think I'd take a long hard look at OL and DL first.

[Dryden]

Originally Posted by 23Skidoo

But, if I was an NFL scout -- which I'm definitely not -- I think I'd take a long hard look at OL and DL first.

Agreed. I'd take Joe Thomas, and if Thomas is off the board I'd take Levi Brown.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by OCBucksFan

Since I hate the raiders as is, Quinn going to them would only make rooting against him easier

That's kind of why I want him in Oakland. I know the Raiders will suck for a while, so why not have fun with it and watch Mr. Overrated suck it up and ruin his NFL career?


You don't draft QBs in the NFL anymore anyways. You don't draft WRs in the first round either.....so I'm stoked that those are the 2 projections for the Raiders right now

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by 23Skidoo

It's not that he is #1 thats funny -- it's Mel's commentary that follows.
But, if I was an NFL scout -- which I'm definitely not -- I think I'd take a long hard look at OL and DL first.

One need only look at the Jets to see how competitive a team can quickly become with a couple of really good OLs in round 1.

[Thump]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

One need only look at the Jets to see how competitive a team can quickly become with a couple of really good OLs in round 1.

I raise you one Robert Gallery.

They're not a sure thing either.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by Thump

I raise you one Robert Gallery.

They're not a sure thing either.

[Cornerback6]

I hate the Domers. Saying that, I hope Quinny flops in the NFL faster than Ryan Leaf & Akili Smith combined.

[Thump]

I don't want to see Quinn flop.

I think he's a good kid. Don't blame him for all the hype he's gotten.

He's a good Central Ohio kid who comes from a good family.

[Dryden]

Originally Posted by Thump

I raise you one Robert Gallery.

They're not a sure thing either.

No. Tackles generally are a sure thing.

First round draft picks of the Raiders and Browns are the problem.

[23Skidoo]

Originally Posted by Thump

I raise you one Robert Gallery.

They're not a sure thing either.

Obviously the draft is a risk-reward thing. I think that it's been shown that gambling on an OL or DL player is a safer bet with low-reward, low-risk over the years. It doesn't always pan out, but I believe Gallery is also still contributing, even if he isn't a beast. Whereas, if you draft a QB and he busts -- you'll be screwed for years to come.

[Bucklion]

Originally Posted by Thump

I raise you one Robert Gallery.

They're not a sure thing either.

And Tony Mandarich, of course. I understand they aren't sure things either, but I'd rather trade down a sopt or 4 and take my chances developing a great OL with a solid QB than put a "great" young QB behind a crappy OL. If the QB is actually "great" how will you ever know it? Maybe David Carr could have won 5 Super Bowls by now if he played in NE. If Quinn has 0.5 seconds to throw, he's not going to win anything either.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by Thump

I don't want to see Quinn flop.

I think he's a good kid. Don't blame him for all the hype he's gotten.

He's a good Central Ohio kid who comes from a good family.

he strikes me as an asshole, and I believe the guy from here who said he takes roids (just because I want to )

[Thump]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNation27

he strikes me as an asshole, and I believe the guy from here who said he takes roids (just because I want to )

Kid doesn't take roids, he's been a specimen since HS.

His parents are actaully next door neighbors to a co-worker of mine and said they are an extremely nice and humble family.

The kid seems to have a good head on his shoulders as well.

[Thump]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

And Tony Mandarich, of course. I understand they aren't sure things either, but I'd rather trade down a sopt or 4 and take my chances developing a great OL with a solid QB than put a "great" young QB behind a crappy OL. If the QB is actually "great" how will you ever know it? Maybe David Carr could have won 5 Super Bowls by now if he played in NE. If Quinn has 0.5 seconds to throw, he's not going to win anything either.

I don't see any good QB's wanting to go to Oakland, maybe Detroit since it's indoors.

[BuckeyeNation27]

Originally Posted by Thump

Kid doesn't take roids, he's been a specimen since HS.

His parents are actaully next door neighbors to a co-worker of mine and said they are an extremely nice and humble family.

The kid seems to have a good head on his shoulders as well.

That's when he suposedly started roiding up. I see a lot of Charlie Weis coming out of him when he talks. That's never a good thing.