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Old 10-19-2006, 05:20 PM
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:23 PM
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So one question I have is...does Florida High School football have anything to do with fostering this culture? I imagine that in Ohio, such behavior would not be tolerated, by schools or by the OHSAA, but if it is more lax in Florida, maybe the culture of brawls and thuggery goes back to the HS coaches and the HS system in general...I honestly have no idea, so I'm really just throwing it out there, but given the history of Miami and Free Shoes, and Coker's comments about the FIU players "wishing they were at Miami" I wouldn't be all that surprised, necessarily.
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Old 10-19-2006, 05:42 PM
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1. Twenty-five years of thuggery justifies Miami's reputation as thugs - most of the 'Canes fans admit to being thugs and enjoy that reputation.

2. You protect your team by trying to break up a fight, not by turning a brawl into a riot.

3. Ohio State is a family ... Miami is a posse.
And I seriously question why we have a future game scheduled down there.
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Old 10-19-2006, 06:51 PM
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So one question I have is...does Florida High School football have anything to do with fostering this culture? I imagine that in Ohio, such behavior would not be tolerated, by schools or by the OHSAA, but if it is more lax in Florida, maybe the culture of brawls and thuggery goes back to the HS coaches and the HS system in general...I honestly have no idea, so I'm really just throwing it out there, but given the history of Miami and Free Shoes, and Coker's comments about the FIU players "wishing they were at Miami" I wouldn't be all that surprised, necessarily.
Having played high school football in Florida, I can say I never saw any of this. But that was over 16 years ago. Its a little different today I'm sure. But from my experience, I never witnessed anything like this.

I played in Volusia County. Daytona Beach. The atmosphere overall in Daytona is very different than it is in other Florida cities. While Tampa, Miami, Orlando and Tallahassee are typical Florida cities, Daytona has the redneck element (NASCAR), Rich caucasian college crowd (Spring Break), Historically Black college crowd (B-CC and the BCR), and the beach bum crowd.

My buddy moved to Fort Lauderdale when we were seniors. He said Lauderdale is worlds apart from Daytona Beach. He said the gang element was much stronger in south Florida than it was in central Florida. So there may be somethign to your thoughts on this. While I don't believe that high school coaches in Dade county would endorse this behavior, I believe the thug culture is very strong down there.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:01 PM
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and there has only been 2 fights in 7 games... i know that doesn't make it any better but please stop watching espn and thinking that you have your facts right.
So now you want to argue semantics? That pre-game thing with UL didn't degenerate into an all out brawl so its not a negative event? I don't need ESPN to tell me stompnig a teams logo is a thug act and thats the whole point of the conversation. Miami is a thug program. The fact they got the [censored] kicked out of them ON THE FIELD after such a punk move makes me think less of Miami, and its thug fans, than you can imagine.

Save your condescending attitude and attempts to try and spin this fiasco into anything less than it is for the morons at grassy.
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