TSUN News/Recruiting

[buckford]

Originally Posted by shetuck

If this response, on the part of the "fanbase" of our greatest rival, wasn't so morbid , I'd be prone to yawn.

These spoiled brats have become permanently unhinged. Is it just me, or has this become a ledge these fools seem to occupy seasonally (or even weekly) of late?

It's sad to see this happening at TSUN. It makes me wonder if they really needed a new football coach to resuscitate their competitiveness, as much as they need a new fan base to resuscitate their honor...

Without any happiness on my part, I fear for the rivalry. There is some spin that these kind of change at UM are good, that it will revitalize both tsun and the Big Ten. I hope that is the case. But I worry that UM is in for a long and difficult journey with an uncertain end.

A second-class UM is not a good thing for tOSU or the Big Ten. Hope I'm wrong about where tsun is heading, but there are some troubling signs.

[Oh8ch]

Also, the previous 4 years included going into The Game in 2006 with a perfect record and a #2 ranking, the highest ranking they've had since 1997, their only NC year since pre-1950. So dismissing 2006 as a bad year is rather delusional as well.

Ah, there's the rub.

Look at ND a few year's back. CW would lead them to glory. And after his first season glory was just around the corner.

Now as we enter his fourth year at the helm he has created new expectations where the 6-5 that cost Willingham the same job will provide evidence of resurgence.

I am among those who believe RR will win at UM - and do so sooner rather than later. But setting aside bowl games, Carr's last 5 seasons included records of 11-1, 10-2 and 9-2. The margin for improvement over that is pretty small.

But IMO there is a more interesting question for UM fans, particularly in light of the Boren and Mallet losses. UM for Mallett was bad for both. It would not have prepared him for the NFL and he would not have worked well in RR's spread. That may have been the case for Boren as well. Maybe RR doesn't send OL to the league because that type of player doesn't fit in his program.

So fine, if he wins consistently does it matter? I think so.

If 4 years from now UM is only sending half the players to the NFL that they are today they are no longer UM - they are WVU. And if that happens when the day comes that RR does leave UM will have more to rebuild than their roster.

[cincibuck]

Originally Posted by buckford

Without any happiness on my part, I fear for the rivalry. There is some spin that these kind of change at UM are good, that it will revitalize both tsun and the Big Ten. I hope that is the case. But I worry that UM is in for a long and difficult journey with an uncertain end.

A second-class UM is not a good thing for tOSU or the Big Ten. Hope I'm wrong about where tsun is heading, but there are some troubling signs.

If Notre Dame beats Michigan the Chicago/East Coast press believes, until proven otherwise, that they're the best team in the east and Midwest. Michigan State has them in East Lansing and then they get Purdue at home. Sweep that series and they will be a legit top 10 team. That's one of the biggest reasons to root for Michigan at least once a year IMO.

[brutus2002]

I hope Michigan gets their asses handed to them every time they play.

[Jaxbuck]

Originally Posted by cincibuck

If Notre Dame beats Michigan the Chicago/East Coast press believes, until proven otherwise, that they're the best team in the east and Midwest. Michigan State has them in East Lansing and then they get Purdue at home. Sweep that series and they will be a legit top 10 team. That's one of the biggest reasons to root for Michigan at least once a year IMO.

I'll root for anyone, to include SEC teams and 22 al qaeda pedophiles, vs scUM now that RR is in charge.

[shetuck]

Originally Posted by Jaxbuck

I'll root for anyone, to include SEC teams and 22 al qaeda pedophiles, vs scUM now that RR is in charge.

9/13/2008 is going to be a nauseating day. RR vs. CW. We need to start our official BP meteor strike prayer chain going now...

[OCBucksFan]

Originally Posted by brutus2002

I hope Michigan gets their asses handed to them every time they play.

While I understand what you are saying, I disagree. I hope Michigan gets beat by one team all year and that's us, not that I hate the rest of the big 10, and I do enjoy watching them lose, but they seem to be considered the "second best" by the media. While I think people are over-estimating them, I also understand that there is a need for other teams in the big10 to be good, and as it stands, tsun seems to, well, need to be #2.