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08-06-2008, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by HailToMichigan
Besides, would you hold Tressel in such high esteem if he was going 9-4 all the time, as this method would indicate he would do? That's worse than Coop's percentage.
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How long are you going to make dip[censored] comparisons? Tressel is 208-73-2 (73.7%) all-time including 73-16-0 (82.0%) at Ohio State...not even close to 62.5%. Oh yeah, Tressel also has five national titles and nine national title game appearances. How many of either does DickRod have?
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08-06-2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by HailToMichigan
I suppose if you hold his one year at Salem College against him it's that low. Not sure I'm going to judge his coaching based on how he did at a school that dropped its football team.
Besides, would you hold Tressel in such high esteem if he was going 9-4 all the time, as this method would indicate he would do? That's worse than Coop's percentage.
And no, resources and competition do not go up in the same proportion, otherwise you'd be suggesting that the resources at all Big Ten schools are the same across the board because the competition is a step up from the Big East.
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.645 after you take out his weak first year. Much of a difference? |
08-06-2008, 09:37 PM
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I have to admit I too am sad to see all the hatred for RR posted in this thread.
After all - he has his own thread! Let's post some hate over there as well.
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08-06-2008, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye
How long are you going to make dip[censored] comparisons? Tressel is 208-73-2 (73.7%) all-time including 73-16-0 (82.0%) at Ohio State...not even close to 62.5%. Oh yeah, Tressel also has five national titles and nine national title game appearances. How many of either does DickRod have?
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Apples to oranges. Next time read the whole discussion. Tressel was not 208-73-2 when he showed up at Ohio State. He was roughly .700. Which was at D-IAA. The competition in the Big Ten is so much harder!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-06-2008, 09:51 PM
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look at his performance in conference against the teams that had decent defenses (USF x2 and Pitt last year). I see him as all style, little substance. How will his offense do in the Big Ten when he has to face legitimate defenses that see him every year?
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Besides, would you hold Tressel in such high esteem if he was going 9-4 all the time, as this method would indicate he would do? That's worse than Coop's percentage.
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The last coach Ohio State had that went 9-4 all the time was Earle Bruce.
He was fired for it.
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08-06-2008, 10:05 PM
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The last coach Ohio State had that went 9-4 all the time was Earle Bruce.
He was fired for it.
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Yes, exactly.
But Tressel's record at Youngstown State was 135-57-2, or .701. Applying the fallacious logic that RR's previous coaching win percentage (.625) will be the same at Michigan, Tressel should be giving you 9-4 seasons. He's not, even though the competition is so much better.
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08-06-2008, 10:08 PM
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