TSUN News/Recruiting

[MililaniBuckeye]

I've been saying since we beat Michigan up in whoreville in 2005: If Carr losses to Tressel both in 2006 (which he did) and 2007, then regardless of the results of the other games, he's gone. Well, a 4-loss season (which it will be after this weekend) this year all but guarantees his leaving...

[Bucky Katt]

Good grief. Glancing through the depth chart, Michigan is losing a ton of players this season...

Henne, Hart, Manningham (if he goes), Arrington, Long, Kraus, Ciulla - 7 offensive starters...

Jamison, Johnson, Crable, CGraham, Trent, Englemon, Adams - 7 defensive starters...

And Lopata and Gingell are both seniors - time to break in another new kicker....

I don't doubt that there are talented backups and incoming talent, but the new coach is going to have his work cut out for him.

[Best Buckeye]

Absolutely, I look for tsun to be very average next year. I hear that every Div 2 team wants to play them next year.

[Hubbard]

Originally Posted by Best Buckeye

Absolutely, I look for tsun to be very average next year.

What were they this year?

[Best Buckeye]

Originally Posted by Hubbard

What were they this year?

Lol just plain average.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Best Buckeye

Lol just plain average.

Like your posts?

[muffler dragon]

Such a shame that they don't get recruiting classes like NoD.

[kartaron]

I figure they could lose some of those verbals after a 4 loss season and a new coach. I doubt they told the recruits that they wouldnt be playing for Carr.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by kartaron

I figure they could lose some of those verbals after a 4 loss season and a new coach. I doubt they told the recruits that they wouldnt be playing for Carr.

Lloyd did very little recruiting this year, in part to prepare for his potential departure. Most kids bonded with the assistants. The question is what happens to Lloyd's assistants under a new regime.

He took care of them with a guaranteed extra year, but that may be simply a swell severance package for many.

Originally Posted by Fungo Squiggly

I don't doubt that there are talented backups and incoming talent, but the new coach is going to have his work cut out for him.

The biggest concern has to be OT, imo. Schilling is an interior guy playing out of position (at RT), and LT has no easy answers. Their recruiting class is primarily made up of interior OL.

Couple in a statue at QB with lousy ball security, and there is major reason to be concerned.

[Buck Kid 66]

Their defense isn't going to be much better off. They need corners and safties bad.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

The biggest concern has to be OT, imo. Schilling is an interior guy playing out of position (at RT), and LT has no easy answers. Their recruiting class is primarily made up of interior OL.

Couple in a statue at QB with lousy ball security, and there is major reason to be concerned.

This, to me, is the biggest reason for their descent into mediocrity. They don't seem to understand how to recruit for need. Well, that and they kinda suck at developing those stud recruits. Would Crable have ended up such a mediocre tackler had he come to tOSU? Maybe, but i don't think so.

[SNIPER26]

As jwinslow alluded to, English and Jackson did A LOT of the recruiting. Cissoko is a recruit I'm very concerned about losing. He loved Carr and said he might leave if Carr was let go. I know Illinois is very high on him and that he and Vontae Davis are good friends. Not exactly what I want to hear considering I consider him probably the most important recruit in the class.

Looking at our class, I'm also concerned with the lack of pure numbers on the D side of the ball. One DT, 3 LB, and one CB. That's not even close to enough. I like all the commits (Martin, Witherspoon, Demens, Fitzgerald, Cissoko) but I feel at least 2-3 more DBs are needed in addition to some help on the DL. At CB, I know Jarred Holley and Robby Green are interested but I don't feel too good about either one. Rahim Moore, a current UCLA commit, is rumored to have interest in UM, and so do Spencer Adams and Brandon Smith. I like our odds with Adams and Smith, but I can't say for sure like I can say Terrelle Pryor is going to OSU.

Moral of the story is, we need to change some of our recruiting philosophies. We seem to skimp on DBs too much. They're essential fellas, get some.

[goblue15]

I guess the rivals guy already talked to basically all of our commits and they all said they are staying no matter what. I guess they all have a pretty strong bond, seeing how Carr just told the press he is retiring.

[BengalsAndBucks]

ESPN - End of an era: Michigan's Carr confirms retirement - College Football

[Jaxbuck]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

This, to me, is the biggest reason for their descent into mediocrity. They don't seem to understand how to recruit for need. Well, that and they kinda suck at developing those stud recruits. Would Crable have ended up such a mediocre tackler had he come to tOSU? Maybe, but i don't think so.

If nothing else I'm confident he would have learned not to hit the QB in the head somewhere in those 4 years.