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05-03-2008, 02:53 PM
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Hope springs eternal. You can't blame Illini fans for being excited, they've barely been a blip on the national radar for the last two decades. They finally have a passionate, energetic coach that "gets" the importance of recruiting and is doing a pretty solid job of selling his vision to these kids. Like Roughy has pointed out, they're bringing in more touted recruits than they have in decades. I think Zook will keep them in the second tier of Big-Ten teams with the occasional shot at a Big-Ten title, but thinking that they're gonna join tOSU and scUM as the flagship programs is simply delusional. History proves that. This is how I look at it (in a "big picture" sense):
tOSU
scUM
Wisconsin
PSU (barely)
Illinois
MSU
Purdue
Iowa
Northwestern
Minnesota
Indiana
That's how I look at it right now. Illinois could concievably jump up there with Wiscy and possibly replace PSU in that second tier.
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05-03-2008, 03:09 PM
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That's how I look at it right now. Illinois could concievably jump up there with Wiscy and possibly replace PSU in that second tier.
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I believe they will, with MSU not far behind.
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05-03-2008, 03:19 PM
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Just beat scUM
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Originally Posted by NFBuck
Hope springs eternal. You can't blame Illini fans for being excited, they've barely been a blip on the national radar for the last two decades. They finally have a passionate, energetic coach that "gets" the importance of recruiting and is doing a pretty solid job of selling his vision to these kids. Like Roughy has pointed out, they're bringing in more touted recruits than they have in decades. I think Zook will keep them in the second tier of Big-Ten teams with the occasional shot at a Big-Ten title, but thinking that they're gonna join tOSU and scUM as the flagship programs is simply delusional. History proves that. This is how I look at it (in a "big picture" sense):
tOSU
scUM
Wisconsin
PSU (barely)
Illinois
MSU
Purdue
Iowa
Northwestern
Minnesota
Indiana
That's how I look at it right now. Illinois could concievably jump up there with Wiscy and possibly replace PSU in that second tier.
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since 1994 when PSU joind, the B10 by conf win % only:
t1 OSU 86-26 (.768)
t1 scUM 86-26 (.768)
2 PSU 67-45 (.598)
3 Wisky 65-45-2 (.589)
4 Purdue 57-52-3 (.522)
5 Iowa 57-54-1 (.513)
6 MSU 49-62-1 (.442)
7 NU 49-63 (.438)
8 Illinois 35-76-1 (.317)
9 Minny 35-77 (.312)
10 IU 26-86 (.232)
You can do this by any time frame you want to, you can add in weight for a B10 title, BCS games or whatever....its still the Big 2 and little 8(9) and its not even that close. The only arguments is ever who's the latest school to lay claim to distant 3rd.
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OSU under Jim Tressel76-17 (.817%)1 National Championship3 NC appearances4 B10 Championships(3 consecutive)6-1 vs scUM5 BCS Bowl Appearances1 Heisman TrophyB10 record 20 game conference win streak
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05-03-2008, 03:28 PM
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Seriously, They Do...Bad.
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since 1994 when PSU joind, the B10 by conf win % only:
t1 OSU 86-26 (.768)
t1 scUM 86-26 (.768)
2 PSU 67-45 (.598)
3 Wisky 65-45-2 (.589)
4 Purdue 57-52-3 (.522)
5 Iowa 57-54-1 (.513)
6 MSU 49-62-1 (.442)
7 NU 49-63 (.438)
8 Illinois 35-76-1 (.317)
9 Minny 35-77 (.312)
10 IU 26-86 (.232)
You can do this by any time frame you want to, you can add in weight for a B10 title, BCS games or whatever....its still the Big 2 and little 8(9) and its not even that close. The only arguments is ever who's the latest school to lay claim to distant 3rd.
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I agree absolutely. I just look at it in tiers.
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05-03-2008, 04:04 PM
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Just wanted to jump back in the thread (Since I haven't been here in a while) and say what's up to everybody. I read a lot of the stuff in here and I'm not even going to respond. Besides I know I'm not too liked here anyway. Just wanted to say what's up.....

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05-03-2008, 04:11 PM
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Just wanted to jump back in the thread and say what's up to everybody. I read a lot of the stuff in here and I'm not even going to respond. Just wanted to say what's up.....

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05-03-2008, 04:13 PM
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