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Old 03-28-2005, 12:29 PM
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How does a college student post a 100,000 dollar bail? His family must be pretty loaded.
When you enlist the services of a bailbondsman your family pays him a straight fee for his services-how much, I don't know. Then, the bondsman puts up $10,000 of assets-and requires grandma or mom to sign the deed to the house over to him as a safety policy. So, if you run, A-the bondsman is responsible for $100,000, and B-he sells grandma's house to raise the cash. This is how bounty hunters make their $$$, they are hired by the bondsmen to get their money back-and save grandma's house. I think a lot of places will actually let the bondman write a check for 10%, and not cash it if he has a reliable record, they will go all out only if you skip out on bail.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:31 PM
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scooter,
We should all reserve judgement.

But how is what Dukes was charged with far worse?
Being accused of rape is one thing. Being accused of raping a child/gross imposition with a minor/child molestation is a whole different matter.
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:52 PM
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scooter,
I think we need to take a step back and look at the two situations.

The kid at USC is charged with rape/sexual assault. That is a pretty straightforward charge that carries with it serious prison time. Rape/assault are crimes of violence. That kind of a charge tells me that the girl is saying that she didn't want to do something and the USC kid forced her to do it anyway, violently.

We don't know what Albert Dukes was charged with in the end, but it carries with it a 3 month probation. I'm not anything even close to a lawyer, but that doesn't seem to fit with a rape of a child/gross sexual imposition charge.

What I'm saying is that all things point to the relationship between Albert and this girl being consensual. Is there a huge difference between 18 and 13? The law says that you are an adult when you are 18, but not 17. The law also says that you can go and die in Iraq, but you can't buy a beer.

What I do know is that a 13 year old girl can look every bit of 21 and there aren't a whole lot of 18 year old boys who are going to card a girl that seems willing.

EDIT: Let's also not forget that anyone can accuse anyone of anything. As an educator/coach I am all too aware of where this type of thing can lead. Would I give one of my female students a ride home if it was pouring rain and she missed her bus? Not on your life. I'll stay with her until she can get a hold of someone to pick her up or I'll get a female staff member to ride with me as I give the girl a ride home. But if that girl and I are alone together for any amount of time she can say whatever she wants and, right or wrong, that accusation will follow me for the rest of my life.

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Old 03-28-2005, 12:55 PM
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scooter,
I think we need to take a step back and look at the two situations.

The kid at USC is charged with rape/sexual assault. That is a pretty straightforward charge that carries with it serious prison time. Rape/assault are crimes of violence. That kind of a charge tells me that the girl is saying that she didn't want to do something and the USC kid forced her to do it anyway, violently.

We don't know what Albert Dukes was charged with in the end, but it carries with it a 3 month probation. I'm not anything even close to a lawyer, but that doesn't seem to fit with a rape of a child/gross sexual imposition charge.

What I'm saying is that all things point to the relationship between Albert and this girl being consensual. Is there a huge difference between 18 and 13? The law says that you are an adult when you are 18, but not 17. The law also says that you can go and die in Iraq, but you can't buy a beer.

What I do know is that a 13 year old girl can look every bit of 21 and there aren't a whole lot of 18 year old boys who are going to card a girl that seems willing.
What he was charged with to get him down there was not a watered down charge. He was accused of forcing a 12 yearold to give him oral sex. That is why he ended up in Florida to fight charges.

What they settled on isn't what I was discussing. Wright's charge could still be lowered to trespassing by next month. I was going off the original charge.
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:08 PM
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If you are going with the original accusation then I couldn't agree more. There is nothing worse than being accused of raping a child.

But see my edit in my previous post on accusations. I can accuse Jim Tressel of molesting collies. Doesn't make it true.
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Old 03-28-2005, 01:10 PM
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If you are going with the original accusation then I couldn't agree more. There is nothing worse than being accused of raping a child.

But see my edit in my previous post on accusations. I can accuse Jim Tressel of molesting collies. Doesn't make it true.
Now you and I are officially on the same page. I'll be coaching girls softball (7-9 year old rec league) this year, but in no way will I put myself in a position that could be misinterpreted.
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