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against scum? no. but my question to you is this. do you think tressel would do so for a game against say... purdue or illinois should we already have a spot in the playoffs locked up?
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doubtful considering if he WERE going to use that strategy he would have already used it in the current day to keep everybody rested and healthy for the scum game. |
12-06-2006, 03:19 AM
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...too many typos I'll save my post for a rainy day....
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12-06-2006, 04:37 AM
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against scum? no. but my question to you is this. do you think tressel would do so for a game against say... purdue or illinois should we already have a spot in the playoffs locked up?
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Although you included this comment in your quote of me, you must not have comprehended it: "Everyone wants to win as many games as possible to get the highest possible playoff seeding and homefield advantage." Tressel wants to win the conference title along with the national title, and as such will try to win every game he can...not to mention getting the highest possible playoff seed and homefield advantage.
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Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye
Although you included this comment in your quote of me, you must not have comprehended it: "Everyone wants to win as many games as possible to get the highest possible playoff seeding and homefield advantage." Tressel wants to win the conference title along with the national title, and as such will try to win every game he can...not to mention getting the highest possible playoff seed and homefield advantage.
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That works great for conferences such as ours (and the P10 and BE), but in the other 3 (w/CCGs) you would find a lot of games being bs'd at the end of the season. i.e.: Arkansas could have lost 90-0 against LSU and was still a lock for the CCG. If they were guaranteed a shot at everything as a conference champ, they would have rested a lot during that game and played very vanilla. The same goes for the other CCG-ridden conferences.
The SEC issue of playing cupcakes OOC and never going more than a state away would only be encouraged as well. We'd see this kind of behavior from everyone. Right now it's a dog-eat-dog world, and I prefer it that way.
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12-07-2006, 03:59 AM
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That works great for conferences such as ours (and the P10 and BE), but in the other 3 (w/CCGs) you would find a lot of games being bs'd at the end of the season. i.e.: Arkansas could have lost 90-0 against LSU and was still a lock for the CCG.
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You obviously don't understand the selection process, as it is done for I-AA, II, and III. Let's say that Ark took a snooze after they knew they were going into the SEC title game. Even if they won the SEC title game, they selection committee would penalize them for their lackluster showing--heavily if that lackluster game was a loss. The only thing that a conference title would do is guarantee you a spot in the playoffs...seeding is a whole different story. And if Ark indeed got drilled in the game before the SEC title game because they slacked off and rested starters, and then lost the title game, they probably wouldn't even get selected for the field of 16 because of that intentional letdown. So I doubt that any team with a half decent coaching staff would intentionally slack off once they felt they were in the playoffs.
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You obviously don't understand the selection process, as it is done for I-AA, II, and III. Let's say that Ark took a snooze after they knew they were going into the SEC title game. Even if they won the SEC title game, they selection committee would penalize them for their lackluster showing--heavily if that lackluster game was a loss. The only thing that a conference title would do is guarantee you a spot in the playoffs...seeding is a whole different story. And if Ark indeed got drilled in the game before the SEC title game because they slacked off and rested starters, and then lost the title game, they probably wouldn't even get selected for the field of 16 because of that intentional letdown. So I doubt that any team with a half decent coaching staff would intentionally slack off once they felt they were in the playoffs.
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You're right that I know nothing about DIAA/DII/DIII playoffs. I never claimed to, nor is that really the discussion. While we're on it though, I'll say that a 16-team playoff is rather ridiculous, IMO.
And if you're going to have a selection committee select less than say 4-8 teams, how is that really any different than the current BCS system?
As for the resting of players, we could go round the table all day on that. But I don't think it's arguable that games would be less exciting when there is far less on the line. And if these seeds don't involve home-field advantage (in which case, I would have to assume you're in favor of throwing the bowls away), then what good does a "seed" really do you? Near as I can tell, there is not a sizable difference in talent between 3 and 4, 5 and 8, nor 9 and 16.
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12-08-2006, 06:52 AM
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Hey, why just argue in favor of a playoff when you can waste tax dollars doing it? 
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http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2006-SR-0166
Senate Resolution 0166 (2006)
Sponsors Mark Schauer - (primary)
Mike Bishop
A resolution to urge the National Collegiate Athletic Association to develop a playoff system to determine its Division I-A football championship in order to protect the integrity of public investment in university athletics.
Last Action: 12/7/2006 - REFERRED TO COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
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The text of the resolution isn't available at the time of this posting.
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LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- Still angry over Michigan's exclusion from the BCS national title football game, a pair of state lawmakers are calling for a playoff system.
Sens. Mark Schauer and Mike Bishop, the incoming Democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate, say subjectivity should be removed from a process that has financial and emotional repercussions. The pro-playoff resolution they introduced Thursday is purely symbolic.
"The BCS system is clearly not working and consumers in Michigan and around the country are paying a very real price," said Schauer, D-Battle Creek.
He said the University of Michigan will lose out on at least $10 million for going to the Rose Bowl instead of the BCS championship game, along with a possible rise in enrollment and merchandise sales that come with a national title. One-loss Florida edged out one-loss Michigan for the No. 2 ranking and the chance to face undefeated Ohio State Jan. 8.
Bishop, a Rochester Republican and Michigan graduate, said the BCS "failed miserably" and a playoff is needed to prevent future "injustices."
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You're right that I know nothing about DIAA/DII/DIII playoffs. I never claimed to, nor is that really the discussion. While we're on it though, I | | |
