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12-08-2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 23Skidoo
You're right that I know nothing about DIAA/DII/DIII playoffs. I never claimed to, nor is that really the discussion. While we're on it though, I'll say that a 16-team playoff is rather ridiculous, IMO.
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Well, then you should'nt be chiming in on this then, huh? While the discussion is indeed about the I-A playoffs, how it is done at the lower levels most certainly relates. For your info, the 16-team playoff format is so "ridiculous" that it has been that way since at least 1991 (when YSU won their first title), and I'm pretty sure it has been that way for a lot longer. By the way, YSU was ranked outside of the top eight in the end-of-regular-season polls in one of the years they won the title (#11 in 1993, IIRC), so having a 16-team field is quite acceptable.
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12-08-2006, 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye
Well, then you should'nt be chiming in on this then, huh? While the discussion is indeed about the I-A playoffs, how it is done at the lower levels most certainly relates. For your info, the 16-team playoff format is so "ridiculous" that it has been that way since at least 1991 (when YSU won their first title), and I'm pretty sure it has been that way for a lot longer. By the way, YSU was ranked outside of the top eight in the end-of-regular-season polls in one of the years they won the title (#11 in 1993, IIRC), so having a 16-team field is quite acceptable.
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This is DIA, not DIAA/DII/DIII -- and knowing the ins and outs of their system is as applicable as knowing the ins and outs of MLB, NFL, NBA, etc. playoffs. Especially being that I only responded in reference to an argument that had nothing specifically to do with your preferred playoff scenario, and in fact applies to all playoff scenarios.
What you're saying is that it's quite acceptable because it happened to be YSU? Seems to me YSU maybe didn't deserve to be there in the first place, but JT's team proved they only need to be hot for 1 part of the season to get the championship in a playoff system -- and his big game preparation came through for them. Good for JT, good for YSU. They earned it. But making an emotionally-slanted argument isn't going to get you any points with me.
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12-08-2006, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by t_BuckeyeScott
I don't understand why there still couldn't be the consolation bowls for the also-rans why still having a playoff. Its irrelevant to the discussion.
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Who is going to watch the Capital One Bowl B10 #4 - SEC #5 ? Remember, this is going on the same time as the playoffs.
Considering that's the best-case scenario, what would happen to the midmajors? They'd be done for.
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12-08-2006, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 23Skidoo
This is DIA, not DIAA/DII/DIII --
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What you're saying is that it's quite acceptable because it happened to be YSU? Seems to me YSU maybe didn't deserve to be there in the first place, but JT's team proved they only need to be hot for 1 part of the season to get the championship in a playoff system -- and his big game preparation came through for them.
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My dipshit alarm just went off, so I had to come back and see why.
The level of competition doesn't determine which playoff format to use. You think I-AA and III are about the same level?
Evidentially YSU deserved to be there, because they ended up beating three higher seeds to win the title...looking back, I think the year was 1997, not 1993, when they were ranked outside the top eight at the end of the regular season yet made the playoffs. The reason why they made the playoffs despite being outside the top eight was because their only two losses were to conference foes Northern Iowa and Western Illinois, both of who finished ranked higher than YSU and both losses were only by three points (the loss to WIU was the last game of the regular season which dropped them out of the top eight). Despite being stuck in the Gateway Conference, which was head-and-shoulders above any other I-AA conference, they still finished 9-2 including a 21-point blowout of a MAC team. They were totally deserving of a playoff spot and proved it by winning three consecutive playoff games--including the title game--on the road.
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12-08-2006, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye
My dipshit alarm just went off, so I had to come back and see why.
The level of competition doesn't determine which playoff format to use. You think I-AA and III are about the same level?
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Look i can chop posts up to make up a bs argument and play strawman too.
I said knowing the other division's playoff is as applicable as knowing other sport's playoff systems -- and I seem to recall the NFL being included in that list, yeap, it is. Thus, obviously, your entire argument is blown out of the water.
The next time you want to mouth off and call somebody else an idiot, I suggest you actually read what they said first.
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12-08-2006, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 23Skidoo
I said knowing the other division's playoff is as applicable as knowing other sport's playoff systems -- and I seem to recall the NFL being included in that list, yeap, it is. Thus, obviously, your entire argument is blown out of the water.
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How do the playoff systems of totally different sports apply here? I notice that you conveniently ignore my proof (YSU's 1997 season). If anyone's argument was deep-sixed, it was yours...
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