College Playoff

[Xevious]

If you're going to scrap the BCS system, the BCS Bowls should go with it. I don't see any reason why Miami, LSU, Arizona, and USC should have the potential to play home games every year. Their conferences have geographical advantages as well. Regional games should be played in that portion of the county and the championship game should rotate throughout the country, northern states included. I would love to see a team like Miami try to play up north in January. They would probably pack the stands with about 50 fans.

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by Xevious

If you're going to scrap the BCS system, the BCS Bowls should go with it. I don't see any reason why Miami, LSU, Arizona, and USC should have the potential to play home games every year. Their conferences have geographical advantages as well. Regional games should be played in that portion of the county and the championship game should rotate throughout the country, northern states included. I would love to see a team like Miami try to play up north in January. They would probably pack the stands with about 50 fans.

Can someone say that would be too COOL. Miami suiting up on a very cold and snowy January afternoon to face the Ohio State Buckeyes - and just so there is no home field advantage, lets say this happens in South Bend. You'll soon see what sub-sero temperatures can do to "Florida Speed."

Despite which fantasy (or maybe in part because of the fantasy), I don't agree with the petition.

The play-off format still favors Southern teams in the NC game when someone other than a tOSU or the like travels.

If we are to see a play-off I'd rather see a larger number of teams than 1-8.

Plus, a play-off tends to reward a "hot" team rather than a season long record. Finally, I forsee the proposed scheme getting completely botched up once it fell into the hands of the College representatives / Presidents.

[Misanthrope]

Online petitions tend to be a waste of time and this, unfortunately, is no exception.

As much as I would like to see a playoff, attending the Alamo Bowl made me accept the reality that we, as fans, are dreaming of something that won't happen soon, if ever.

The bowl games are big, big business. Tens of thousands of people pour into the host cities bringing their checkbooks with them. San Antonio had to make a ton off OSUvOSU and that's a mid-level bowl. I can only imagine how much the BCS bowls make, but the fact that they reward participating schools with $13-14 million - each - is a pretty good indication. Even lesser bowls playing to half empty stadiums benefit the city by bringing tourists that wouldn't be there, otherwise. Think Virginians would've ever gone to Boise if not for the bowl game this season?

It won't matter if 20 million people sign that petition. So long as the bowls keep raking in cash for their hosts, there will be no playoff.

[smithlabs]

Originally Posted by Xevious

If you're going to scrap the BCS system, the BCS Bowls should go with it. I don't see any reason why Miami, LSU, Arizona, and USC should have the potential to play home games every year. Their conferences have geographical advantages as well. Regional games should be played in that portion of the county and the championship game should rotate throughout the country, northern states included. I would love to see a team like Miami try to play up north in January. They would probably pack the stands with about 50 fans.

USC and Miami are virtual home games. LSU and Arizona have to drive a couple of hours to the stadium. ASU and UCLA actually have BCS games in their home stadium.

Smithlabs

[IronBuckI]

Is this the same crap ass that was going around last year pimpin' his site? Someone delete this spammin' [censored]bricks link.

As for playing Bowl games in northern cities, I have no problem with it, but who actually benefits from a snow bowl in January. How many football games in the last 10 years have the Buckeyes played in the snow? Our last regular season game is in November, and we very rarely get snow in November. The misconception that northern teams would do better in snow is false. They don't play in snow much more than the southern teams do. If you're going to have a championship game in a northern city, then it has to be Detroit, Indy, or Minny. I don't want to see a [censored]fest of turnovers and players slippin' all over the place, especially in a championship game. I want to see speed, athleticism, and kids hittin' each other at 25 mph, and I want to see TG2 doing 30 mph.

[Oneshot]

Hahaha I like the guy that signed the petition with his comment being how stupid we all were for petitioning the BCS when the BCS is the greatest thing to happen to college football.

I wonder if later he realized he just signed a petition to get rid of the BCS.

Idiot.

[BuckStocksHere]

just say no to a college playoff

[Xevious]

Originally Posted by IronBuckI

As for playing Bowl games in northern cities, I have no problem with it, but who actually benefits from a snow bowl in January. How many football games in the last 10 years have the Buckeyes played in the snow? Our last regular season game is in November, and we very rarely get snow in November. The misconception that northern teams would do better in snow is false. They don't play in snow much more than the southern teams do. If you're going to have a championship game in a northern city, then it has to be Detroit, Indy, or Minny. I don't want to see a [censored]fest of turnovers and players slippin' all over the place, especially in a championship game. I want to see speed, athleticism, and kids hittin' each other at 25 mph, and I want to see TG2 doing 30 mph.

Why should our championship game be played in an artificial environment such as a dome when the rest of the season the vast majority NCAA teams play outdoors in weather? Playing games in bad weather is one of the best parts of football and produces some of the most memorable games. This isn't golf or tennis where the game is delayed due to weather. The NFL doesn't have a problem playing the conference championship games in all sorts of weather. This has produced some of the most memorable games like the Fog Bowl in Chicago in 88', the frozen AFC championship game in Cinci 81, and of course the legendary Ice Bowl played on the immortalized "frozen tundra". The Snow Bowl might be the most famous game in the OSU/UM series. Artificial turf sucks too, even the new improved stuff. Give me a nice muddy field any day.

Playing in the north does not guarantee snow but it is likely to be cold. This could be a big advantage for teams that play and practice in colder climates. I don't think Tampa Bay's 1-21 record when the temperature is below 40 has been a fluke.

[IronBuckI]

Originally Posted by Xevious

Why should our championship game be played in an artificial environment such as a dome when the rest of the season the vast majority NCAA teams play outdoors in weather? Playing games in bad weather is one of the best parts of football and produces some of the most memorable games. This isn't golf or tennis where the game is delayed due to weather. The NFL doesn't have a problem playing the conference championship games in all sorts of weather. This has produced some of the most memorable games like the Fog Bowl in Chicago in 88', the frozen AFC championship game in Cinci 81, and of course the legendary Ice Bowl played on the immortalized "frozen tundra". The Snow Bowl might be the most famous game in the OSU/UM series. Artificial turf sucks too, even the new improved stuff. Give me a nice muddy field any day.

Playing in the north does not guarantee snow but it is likely to be cold. This could be a big advantage for teams that play and practice in colder climates. I don't think Tampa Bay's 1-21 record when the temperature is below 40 has been a fluke.

You keep using NFL games as examples. We're talking college here. The Snow Bowl has not been in the last ten years, and many teams go indoors to practice until they go south for their bowl games. Plus, the sloppy play that you get with crappy weather is a major pain in the ass to watch. I like a good defensive struggle, but not if it's just a sloppy game. Why is it that people keep saying that a fall sport was meant to be played in the snow? If it's a fall sport, then it was meant to be played in the fall. Not only that, but I don't want any excuses, even if they are illegitimate. That the only reason a southern team lost to an obviously inferior northern team is because they had to play on a sloppy field. The Fiesta Bowl was played on a fast track, that our fast defense could exploit. If we play that game in South Bend, then it's written off as a northern team having an obvious(bull[censored]) advantage. You're right about the turf, especially in Indy and Minny. Detroit, however, has a very nice field turf that many people compare favorably to grass. Both Indy's and Minny's domes are old, and either need major repairs or replaced. With the popularity of field turf, it can't be too far off that both of those places will get it.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by IronBuckI

If it's a fall sport, then it was meant to be played in the fall. Not only that, but I don't want any excuses, even if they are illegitimate. That the only reason a southern team lost to an obviously inferior northern team is because they had to play on a sloppy field. The Fiesta Bowl was played on a fast track, that our fast defense could exploit. If we play that game in South Bend, then it's written off as a northern team having an obvious(bull[censored]) advantage.

I'd rather get a higher percentage of wins in [censored]ty weather and hear southern excuses than have to play USC in the Rose Bowl or Cryami in the Orange Bowl. And after the new stadium gets done in Dallas, the Cotton Bowl may join the next BCS rotation and become an advantage for Texas.

[crazybuckfan40]

Hypothetical, but possible.

I know it is still early, but this is the scenario that keeps coming up in my head. We win out, some close and some covincing wins. Not the run up the score types either. Texas also wins out as they will be favored in the rest of their games. Then I have a feeling that USC could lose a game say to Cal or someone and then win out. Also a team from the SEC comes out with only one lose. Say a LSU, Georgia, Tenn, or Fl. Then that would leave us, USC, and one of them with one lose. With the formula in place you know damn well that USC goes on to play Texas b/c they have won two in a row.

Then you can second guess the scheduling, what if we would of had the Citadel on our schedule like FSU or La Tech like Fl. instead of Texas. No none of us would of been excited for the game, but we would be sitting in Pasedena to play Texas.

I know you can say that is what makes college football, you have to win every game, but hell we played the team that won all their games and lost by a matter of inches.

Also it would makes teams schedule more games like that. Say USC vs. Miami or Michigan vs. Va Tech. Those games would be outstanding for all of us to watch and the ratings and money for cfb would increase.

Also could you imagine a playoff at the end of the year and all the money it would bring. If tOSU had 3 games the money they would bring would be outrageous and the tv ratings wouldnt get any higher.

I know I am probably just upset that I feel we could be out of the race b/c Texas will win out and probably USC, b/c their schedule is very weak.

Thoughts?

[MililaniBuckeye]

Please use the search function and post your comments in one of the three or four existing playoff threads...

[crazybuckfan40]

Hypothetical, but possible.

I know it is still early, but this is the scenario that keeps coming up in my head. We win out, some close and some covincing wins. Not the run up the score types either. Texas also wins out as they will be favored in the rest of their games. Then I have a feeling that USC could lose a game say to Cal or someone and then win out. Also a team from the SEC comes out with only one lose. Say a LSU, Georgia, Tenn, or Fl. Then that would leave us, USC, and one of them with one lose. With the formula in place you know damn well that USC goes on to play Texas b/c they have won two in a row.

Then you can second guess the scheduling, what if we would of had the Citadel on our schedule like FSU or La Tech like Fl. instead of Texas. No none of us would of been excited for the game, but we would be sitting in Pasedena to play Texas.

I know you can say that is what makes college football, you have to win every game, but hell we played the team that won all their games and lost by a matter of inches.

Also it would makes teams schedule more games like that. Say USC vs. Miami or Michigan vs. Va Tech. Those games would be outstanding for all of us to watch and the ratings and money for cfb would increase.

Also could you imagine a playoff at the end of the year and all the money it would bring. If tOSU had 3 games the money they would bring would be outrageous and the tv ratings wouldnt get any higher.

I know I am probably just upset that I feel we could be out of the race b/c Texas will win out and probably USC, b/c their schedule is very weak.

Thoughts?
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[lvbuckeye]

i am against a playoff for one main reason, and perhaps for the same reason that many people want to see a playoff: Last night.

face it. we just saw a National Championship Game, played in Ohio Stadium between Texas and Ohio State... if we go to a playoff system, that game really doesn't matter... in this case, we got to see a [censored]ing AWESOME football game, in which the winner had the inside track on hoisting the Crystal Football...

of course, you could argue that the loss still doesn't matter, since Ohio State could still win out, and play for all the marbles, but i would tend to disagree... college football is a 12 game playoff, and while admittedly not perfect, is IMHO, the best system...

there is no way we get that kind of intensity last night if both teams knew going in that they would still get their chance to play for it all, even with a loss...

i'm so glad that Geiger and now Smith have taken the initiative to schedule Texas, USC, Cal, Va Tech, and Miami in the coming decade... that was quite possibly the best scene i have ever witnessed in college football, outside of the Fiesta against Miami... and win, lose, or draw, i want to see that continue...

Florida State built their tradition by taking on all comers... now, even though Ohio State is an established National Power, we do not shrink from putting that reputation on the line against the biggest and the baddest... this will only make Ohio State better, and the Tradition will continue to grow...

GO BUCKS!!! IT'S GREAT TO BE AN OHIO STATE BUCKEYE!!!

[crazybuckfan40]

Originally Posted by lvbuckeye

i am against a playoff for one main reason, and perhaps for the same reason that many people want to see a playoff: Last night.

face it. we just saw a National Championship Game, played in Ohio Stadium between Texas and Ohio State... if we go to a playoff system, that game really doesn't matter... in this case, we got to see a [censored]ing AWESOME football game, in which the winner had the inside track on hoisting the Crystal Football...

of course, you could argue that the loss still doesn't matter, since Ohio State could still win out, and play for all the marbles, but i would tend to disagree... college football is a 12 game playoff, and while admittedly not perfect, is IMHO, the best system...

there is no way we get that kind of intensity last night if both teams knew going in that they would still get their chance to play for it all, even with a loss...

i'm so glad that Geiger and now Smith have taken the initiative to schedule Texas, USC, Cal, Va Tech, and Miami in the coming decade... that was quite possibly the best scene i have ever witnessed in college football, outside of the Fiesta against Miami... and win, lose, or draw, i want to see that continue...

Florida State built their tradition by taking on all comers... now, even though Ohio State is an established National Power, we do not shrink from putting that reputation on the line against the biggest and the baddest... this will only make Ohio State better, and the Tradition will continue to grow...

GO BUCKS!!! IT'S GREAT TO BE AN OHIO STATE BUCKEYE!!!

Ok Lv I am going to disagree with you on this one.

Yeah the game was awesome, and I loved it even know we came out on the losing end, but that is the only game like that you are going to see this year. Hell you are lucky if you see two top 25 teams matched up against each other more than 2 or 3 times a week.

What if we wouldnt have scheduled a team like texas, we would still be in the title hunt, just like Louisville, and USC. The teams that play nobody. I just don't think it is fair that some teams have a ten times harder time than others.

For your opinion of that the game between us and Texas wouldnt matter if there was a playoff, yeah it would b/c if we would lose one game after that we wouldnt make it to the playoff. I am not saying put 20 teams, just put 8. The big conference winners and 2 at-large.

Would you say the same thing if we win out and USC loses one game and they make the bcs game instead of us. Just like AU got screwed last year.