College Playoff

[billmac91]

maybe someone could create a poll to see what the most popular opinion is on the subject.

8 team playoff
16 team playoff
Current BCS System
Old Bowl system
+1 system

I swear the same arguments have been 19 different times. This all just continues to recycle. Great converation though, it definatrely brings strong opinions out in people.

Once you give your vote explain how you get your field and hold it logistically

[CookyPuss]

Originally Posted by billmac91

maybe someone could create a poll to see what the most popular opinion is on the subject.

8 team playoff
16 team playoff
Current BCS System
Old Bowl system
+1 system

I swear the same arguments have been 19 different times. This all just continues to recycle. Great converation though, it definatrely brings strong opinions out in people.

Once you give your vote explain how you get your field and hold it logistically

Poll: College Playoff Yes or No?

[billmac91]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

Poll: College Playoff Yes or No?

cool. I noticed it's closed. Any chance of it being re-opened?

[HailToMichigan]

Originally Posted by Lockup

You have a good arguement till you hit the bolded part. Are you kidding? every year there is some team that felt they got snubbed even with 65.

The competition commitee is not a bad idea though but understand no matter how many teams we had in a playoff somebody is not going to like it.

I just think it is better for the #17, #9 or #5 team to bitch then the current #3 or #4.

Well, I'm certainly not gonna argue that point, since it's one that I use frequently in the argument against a playoff.

However, it's slightly different for basketball. We all know the tournament field is not as big as it is because there are 65 teams with a shot at the title. If the field were cut to 16, it would be more realistic. George Mason vs. Wichita State in the Sweet 16 is cute and a fun story, but proponents of football playoffs base their pitch on us getting to see three or four rounds of totally sweet matchups like USC vs. Ohio State or Florida vs. Texas. For pure competition, we'd have been better off with Tennessee vs. UNC in that Sweet 16 game.

Those teams that do complain (and there are rarely more than two each year) are complaining not because they think they can win the national championship, but because they're cut out of the money pie. The huge field of teams is about the money and the spectacle, plain and simple. And I don't hold any illusions that if a football playoff were to start off small like the basketball tourney did, it would eventually swell as the power brokers chased the money.

And frankly, basketball needs the spectacle. In football, game day Saturdays are a huge event that we look forward to all week. Basketball games are on Wednesday nights, or Sunday afternoons during the NFL playoffs, or Tuesday evenings. We live and die by football Saturdays, we tailgate, and we set aside three hours for no purpose other than watching the game. Why? Because it means the world. Look no further than BP itself for proof. Compare Ohio State vs. Northwestern game day threads in football and basketball. Hell, the football thread was started back in friggin April! It has 41 pages. The basketball thread was started two days before the game and has 4 pages. Yes, this is primarily a football site, but the basketball game threads that matter (like Tennessee last year in the tourney - 63 games) have big-ass threads of their own. Football games matter. Basketball games do not.

[schwab]

Originally Posted by HailToMichigan

Football games matter. Basketball games do not.

I couldn't resist....

We were in the NC game last season in BBall. We understand....it matters more in Columbus than it does in AA. Just sayin.

[Dryden]

ESPN - Final Four format for football would need to be seeded, commissioners say - College Football

Final Four format for football would need to be seeded, commissioners say

ACC Commissioner John Swofford and SEC Commissioner Mike Slive said Monday morning at an annual meeting of the Football Writers Association of America that they believe a "plus-one" format would have to be seeded.

The other possibility of the "plus-one" was considered to be playing an extra game after the BCS title game.

Each commissioner also stated that the SEC, ACC, Big East and Big 12 are open to discussing the "plus-one" format. The Big Ten and Pac-10 have been opposed to it.

Swofford, who is the incoming BCS chair, said the nature of the 2007 season and its weekly upheaval has motivated his presidents and athletic directors to reconsider a plus-one model.

"A lot of people look at it and say ... maybe it would be better if more than two teams had the opportunity to play for the national championship," Swofford said.

"There's a comfort level with what we're doing today," Swofford added. "In our conference, there's much more open-mindedness about the plus-one than there was two years ago. There's an interest in it ... and a willingness to discuss it in full."

Cont'd ...

Wow, the ACC is pushing for a 1-4 seeded format? Go figure!

Would it be because they can't get a conference team any higher than #3 anymore?

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

If I see one more article about USC having a claim for a split title I might go crazy.

Didn't they beat 3 teams with a winning record? I hate the media.

[sandgk]

Letter from the President of the University of Georgia pleading for NCAA to take over and create a 4-team playoof. (PDF)

[Nutriaitch]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Letter from the President of the University of Georgia pleading for NCAA to take over and create a 4-team playoof. (PDF)

Funny. He didn't give 2 [censored]s about a playoff, or spout any type of support for one the year Auburn was the odd team out.

[shetuck]

Originally Posted by sandgk

Letter from the President of the University of Georgia pleading for NCAA to take over and create a 4-team playoof. (PDF)

here's a summary in case some can't open the pdf:

"woof woof woof. bark bark. growl! woof woof, bark woof, hrmph. meow woof grrr!"

fwiw, i don't agree at all. that meow comment was just completely out of line.

[HailToMichigan]

Originally Posted by Nutriaitch

Funny. He didn't give 2 [censored]s about a playoff, or spout any type of support for one the year Auburn was the odd team out.

Imagine that. He's ok with the current system until it's his team that's left out. What hypocrisy.

Here's the link to the ESPN article, by the way.

ESPN - Georgia president: Schools need to regain control of postseason - College Football

As I consider it important to point out the vast playoff-wing conspiracy in the media, take a look at this paragraph...

Georgia did not win its division of the Southeastern Conference and did not play in that league's title game, but was widely regarded as one of the best teams in the nation as the college football season closed. The Bulldogs went to the Sugar Bowl instead of the BCS Championship Game, where some beleived the team belonged.

"Where some believed the team belonged." What the frick. Even Wikipedia has higher journalistic standards than that and flags such statements as weasel words.

It even says in the article that he has long opposed a playoff system, "largely for academic reasons." Hmm, what could possibly have transpired to make the president of a university suddenly decide that academics should now take a backseat?

What, may I ask, is wrong with going to the Sugar Bowl and winning it handily? That is almost as prestigious as it gets. If he wanted a crack at LSU, then the Dawgs should have beaten Tennessee.

[Lockup]

Originally Posted by HailToMichigan

What, may I ask, is wrong with going to the Sugar Bowl and winning it handily? That is almost as prestigious as it gets. If he wanted a crack at LSU, then the Dawgs should have beaten Tennessee.

The BCS NCG pays more money?

[HailToMichigan]

Another example of how the media turn into irrational idiots when it comes to the BCS:

ESPN - LSU most deserving, but it's still a flawed system - College Football

The title says it all. If LSU is in fact the "most deserving" champion, then the system is not flawed and worked perfectly this year.

Schlabach can't have it both ways. If the system is flawed, then LSU doesn't deserve the title and he should say so. But he's so bent on not offending LSU and their fans, he comes off two-faced.

[HungryHungry]

Originally Posted by HailToMichigan

Schlabach can't have it both ways. If the system is flawed, then LSU doesn't deserve the title and he should say so. But he's so bent on not offending LSU and their fans, he comes off two-faced.

Perhaps his point is more in tune with the expression:

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then.

[Nutriaitch]

Originally Posted by HailToMichigan

Another example of how the media turn into irrational idiots when it comes to the BCS:

ESPN - LSU most deserving, but it's still a flawed system - College Football

The title says it all. If LSU is in fact the "most deserving" champion, then the system is not flawed and worked perfectly this year.

Schlabach can't have it both ways. If the system is flawed, then LSU doesn't deserve the title and he should say so. But he's so bent on not offending LSU and their fans, he comes off two-faced.

WTF have we done to offend the football gods? Last time we won it, it was questioned, and now again this time. Not many really questioned USC's title when Auburn was left out. Nobody questioned Miami's the year Nebraska undeservingly got in. Nobody really questioned OU's the year FSU got there over Miami, etc. etc.