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10-19-2006, 10:22 PM
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My annual playoff scenario:
-7 BCS conference champs + 5 At large teams seeded by current BCS ranking type system (teams 1-12). - Higher seeded teams get home field for all games except NC game. [censored] the warm weather schools. Come play in Cleveland in late December and tell us its a nuetral stadium like the Rose Bowl is for USC. -Set up brackets and week one bye's exactly like NFL. -Rotate the NC game anuualy between the Rose, Fiesta, Orange and Sugar. -[censored] the 13th place team and the whinning they do, they wouldn't win anyway. -Use current Bowl system to reward players, coaches, fans and alumni of teams that had a good year but weren't top 12. There is nothing wrong in using the Bowls for rewarding a good season, just don't use them to crown a NC. This sceanario takes monay away from the BCS Bowls and puts it back to the schools and would probably generate 5X the TV revenue. Why this would bother the University Presidents is [censored]ing beyond me.          
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10-19-2006, 10:38 PM
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 Playoffs?! Don't talk about playoffs. Are you kidding me?! Playoffs?!
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10-19-2006, 10:50 PM
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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10-20-2006, 12:56 AM
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Actually, I kind of like it. Just gives me more college football to watch.
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10-20-2006, 04:03 AM
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How big would the Ohio State/Michigan game be? Big...but not life or death...win or lose you probably stay in the top 4...get a "home game" if that's how the playoff works...and probably face off again. INSTEAD...in the not so perfect system we have...a PERFECT game has been given the chance to be created. #1 Ohio State vs. #2 Michigan...winner goes to the national championship game...loser doesn't. What scares me about a playoff, or even a Big 10 chapionship game...is what it would take away from the Ohio State vs. Michigan game. True, overall a playoff would help college football...but somewhere along the line it would really screw over a tradition such as this game. The Game is going to be the biggest ever this year because there is no conference championship, there is no playoff...this is the conference championship...this is the playoff...and it's Ohio State/Michigan. And sure...with a playoff, every game is going to be exciting, and a lose you are done situation...but the annual Ohio State/Michigan game wouldn't have that on the line anymore...and even though it would still be Ohio State/Michigan...and it would still be huge an amazing...I like that it's the last game of the season...and I like how many years it determines whether ur going to the national championship, or to the Rose Bowl. Bottom line is...I LOVE college football the way it is...and i'd LOVE college football if it had a playoff. I think people complain too much about there not being a playoff...because honestly, without it, college football still is as good as it gets...I hope instead of talking about how there needs to be a playoff...if this Ohio State/Michigan game ends up being #1 vs. #2...people talk about how big a game this is and how it only happens because of the way college football is.
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10-20-2006, 11:47 AM
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10-20-2006, 11:51 AM
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The Pittsburgh Steelers were something like a #6 seed last year. What was their record? I don't know. The point is, they didn't win their division. I'm not bashing the Steelers, or their fans. I'm just using that as an example. I'm sure there are billions of similar examples throughout sports.
When college football becomes a sport where teams only have to win "just enough" to get to the post-season, and then all teams have an equal chance to win the national championship, it will be a sad, sad day. With a 6-team, 8-team, 12-team, 16-team, or billion-team play-off, who cares about who wins the Ohio State-Texas game? Who cares about Ohio State-Michigan? Who cares about Auburn-Florida? Or Florida-Tennessee? Or Notre Dame-USC or Notre Dame-Michigan or USC-Cal or Louisville-West Virginia or Texas-Oklahoma or Texas-Nebraska or Pitt-Rutgers or (OK - maybe I'm stretching on some of those) countless other games. Many of those games might decide who's a 12-seed and who's missed the tournament. But many decide who's a 4-seed and who's a 6-seed. Who cares? It really sucks when an undefeated Auburn team gets boned by the polls. It really does. But that's happened once in eight years of the BCS. The first four years, there was only one undefeated team in each year. Sure, you get people boo-hooing about their one-loss team getting left out in each of those years, but those people aren't seen as anything but whiners. In eight years of the BCS, eleven teams have been undefeated going into the bowl games. Ten of those teams have played for the national championship. And never has a one-loss team beaten an undefeated team in the national championship game. I don't see a whole lot of evidence supporting the need for more than 2 teams' claims to a national championship (with the exception of Auburn in 2004), except for people whining about their own, specific teams.
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10-20-2006, 12:45 PM
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10-20-2006, 06:53 PM
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Maybe ND is the 7th conference. Anyway, here is the theory I've advanced over the years: - 6-team playoff, taking the top 6 teams from the final BCS poll - Top 2 teams get a first-round bye - First round games held at home field of higher seed - NC and semi-final games rotated between Fiesta, Sugar, Rose, and Orange - Where possible, semifinals cannot be at site within 100 miles of either team - Rest of bowl games proceed as planned Strengths - Survives criticism that playoffs make regular season meaningless. Reward for finishing in the top 2 is a first round bye (and thus no away games). - Survives criticism that playoffs add too many games. Under this system, two teams will be playing one more game than otherwise, and two more teams will be playing two more games than otherwise. 115 teams won't have their season extended at all - Survives criticism that playoffs mean only one team ends up winning its last game. All other bowl games are played as normal. - Survives criticism that crap teams can win the NC. With a cutoff of 6, you have high-quality teams. Since 1950, only one team has ever finished in the top 6 of the AP poll with more than 2 losses, and that was Notre Dame. Thus, no non-ND team has ever finished in the top 6 with more than 2 losses. - Survives criticism that fans can't travel to all these games. First round games are at home team's stadium. Thus, teams only have maybe 2 neutral site games to go to. Hardly the burden that other playoff formats impose. 2003 Seeding 1. Oklahoma 2. LSU 3. USC 4. Michigan 5. Ohio State 6. Texas First Round Ohio State @ Michigan Texas @ USC Semifinals tOSU/Michigan winner vs Oklahoma @ Rose Bowl Texas/USC winner vs LSU @ Orange Bowl NC Game Rose winner vs Orange winner @ Sugar Bowl 2004 Seeding 1. USC 2. Oklahoma 3. Auburn 4. Texas 5. Cal 6. Utah First Round Cal @ Texas Utah @ Auburn Semifinals Cal/Texas vs USC @ Fiesta Bowl Utah/Auburn vs Oklahoma @ Rose Bowl Finals Fiesta winner vs Rose winner @ Orange 2005 Seeding 1. USC 2. Texas 3. PSU 4. tOSU 5. Oregon 6. Notre Dame First Round Oregon @ tOSU Notre Dame @ Penn State Semifinals tOSU/Oregon winner vs USC @ Sugar Bowl ND/PSU winner vs Texas @ Fiesta Bowl NC Game Sugar winner vs Fiesta winner @ Rose Bowl
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10-20-2006, 07:07 PM
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Sad fact is that no system will ever make everyone happy. In methomps' system (which I think would be a great idea, just using it as an example) six teams make it, but the seventh team is gonna feel cheated, sadly that's just the way it is, atleast one person will not be satisfied.
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10-20-2006, 07:45 PM
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I swear that I thought of a system almost exactly like methomp's just earlier today. I agree that 6 is the right number.
But I do wonder about having only the first round at the Higher Seed's site. By your plan, seeds 1 & 2 don't get an extra home game, but 3 and 4 DO. That extra home game could mean a lot of extra $$$.
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10-20-2006, 08:28 PM
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I don't have a problem with the 2nd round being home games, too. As far as revenue, that could be worked out whether it is a home game or a neutral site.
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10-20-2006, 10:29 PM
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I thought of this idea. Actually, my idea was 12 teams. Four teams get byes the first round. First two rounds are played at the home stadium of the better-ranked team. Get down to four teams, and the four play in two bowl games. The winners of those bowl games plays in the national championship bowl. For some, inexplicable reason, I hate the idea of a team winning two bowl games in a year. I hate the idea of a team making it to two bowl games in a year. I don't want to see anyone win the Orange Bowl and then go play in the Rose Bowl. I think that my dream playoff would be four teams. That number five team: you weren't undefeated. Go cry in your beer. If you want to be in the playoffs, you should have won more games. Originally, I thought that the four could play in mid-December, and the winners play in some bowl game, and the losers play in some other bowl game. But I don't think that the losers bowl game would be interesting. They aren't playing for anything. So, then I thought there would be no bowl game for them. But that sucks, because there they were, just a month ago duking it out for the national championship, and now they don't even get a bowl bid. The national championship game should be played after the bowl games that are the first round of the playoffs.
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11-13-2006, 11:54 AM
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A college football playoff model that's sure to work  Posted: November 13, 2006 I began, "Lee, I'm going to write a column about a playoff ? " "Not so fast, my friend," he says. Once a big-time coach working against Bo and Woody, now a TV star for the Worldwide Leader, the eternally effervescent Lee Corso wouldn't let me go on about my latest, greatest, this'll-solve-everything plan for a college football playoff. He says, "Not going to be a playoff. Ever." "But, Lee ? " "The presidents don't want it." "Why ? " Corso, speaking at warp speed with the volume rising in proportion to his passion, says, "Because if you've got the name president, you don't have to give a reason. You say, 'This is it. Period. Done.' " "OK, so the presidents run college football and they don't want a playoff for their usual bogus reasons: 'The sanctity of academics,' 'The purity of amateur sports.' " "All that," Corso says. "So don't even ask for a playoff. It's like a kid asking his dad for a car. The dad says, 'No,' and the kid says, 'But, why, Dad, why?' And the dad says, 'Because I say so.' All the kid can do is go, 'OK, Dad.' " I'll get back to Corso in a minute. He wants you to know exactly what he thinks of the Louisville-Rutgers game that matched undefeated teams with the winner believing it might maybe perhaps possibly could be invited to the national championship game. What Corso thinks is: NOT! Only he says it much more deliciously, and we'll open his mike right after we announce Dave's Playoff Plan That Will Fix Everything and Make the NFL Whimper Like a Schoolgirl. Invite 16 teams. Play every weekend in January. End of plan. Brighter minds can figure out the niggling details. This I know for sure: We can trash the computers. By December, even Borat the Kazakh can name 16 teams of Cultural Learnings For Make Benefit Glorious Nation of America Pigskin. As for the daddy presidents' alleged concerns about academics and amateur sports, please, spare me that steaming pile of piffwaddle. We're grown-ups here. The real reason the football factory presidents don't want a playoff is simple: They make fabulous money this way. Why share with the hoi polloi? So we have the Bowl Championship Series instead of a tournament. Instead of a George Mason doing its Cinderella thing, we wait for a computer to spit out, "Ohio State, Michigan--rematch." Instead of a month's worth of the sustained excitement that comes with March Madness, college football gives us one night of national championship suspense. That makes no sense financially, theatrically, athletically. It is a loser in every way except how it massages presidential egos. Now, back to Corso on the possibility of an undefeated Big East champion getting into the BCS title game: "The BCS is designed to put the TWO BEST teams in the nation together, right?" he asks, and, yes, as he often does, the TV star speaks in italicized capital letters. "It is a flawed system, obviously, but it is the only system we've got. And if it is designed to put the TWO BEST teams in the national championship game, then the Big East champion is NOT going to be in it. I don't care if they're undefeated through eight games this season or if they've won 28 straight games. They're still not one of the two best teams." Corso's reasoning flows from his belief that the Big East is a second- (or third-) tier conference whose teams have yet to prove they belong with the big boys. "With the exception of West Virginia beating Maryland," he says, "the Big East hasn't beaten anybody that I'd consider in the top half of a BCS conference." Before last weekend's games, the Big East had beaten nine teams from other BCS leagues; only Maryland had earned bowl eligibility, and the nine were 38-48 for the season. Quickly, Corso rattled off "at least 10 teams that could beat the Big East champion." His list: Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, Texas, Auburn, Southern California, California, Notre Dame, Arkansas and LSU. "Have you SEEN LSU? They are the best-looking physical specimens in the history of college football who ever lost two games." Wait. Now we're getting somewhere. For our playoff, we would invite Corso's 10. We'd add Boise State and Rutgers. Bring in Louisville, Tennessee and Wisconsin. Fill out the bracket with either a Division II all-star team or the Oakland Raiders. We'd play every Saturday in January. We'd call it the Presidents Cup. It would be Glorious.
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