Lloyd Carr (official thread)

[coxew]

Anyone have an idea why I can't play these using Mozilla? They work fine on my computer with IE.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Honestly, I'm a little disappointed Michigan fans have seemed to decided there is an end to the vast amount of rope they've given him since he won half a title in 97. The way I looked at it, the longer Lloyd runs the show up there the better... kinda like how they felt about Cooper, I guess.

A lot of it may have to do with the fact that he's Michigan's coach, but I just don't think he's that good. He's led some of the most uninspired games I've ever seen. Utah in 02 comes to mind.. a 10 - 6 win, where Mich was completely out played. Washington v. Michigan - where newweasle couldn't count.... Having to rely on miserable refs to beat Illinois twice. Losing to NW more than a few times..

All I know is I hope Michigan keeps Carr for a long, long time...

[brutus2002]

Thats bull[censored]!!! I hate Michigan more than anything but what all Buckeye and Me[censored]again fans need to realize is Carr has done something no other Me[censored]again coach has done since 1948...win a national championship. Bo talks [censored] about Carr but Bo didn't accomplish [censored] if you ask me. Hayes dominated Michigan in his tenure and Carr has dominiated OSU in his tenure.

Carr is a good coach I think the athletes need to take some responsibility for [censored]ty play. Even Coopers squads had all-americans that didn't show up in the Michigan game and in bowl games.

[zincfinger]

I've only heard Schembechler say positive things about Carr. What did I miss? On a side note, didn't Bo have a winning record against both Woody and OSU.

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Michigan under Carr:

<TABLE width="90%"><TBODY><TR align=middle><TD>2003</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>3 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>2002</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>3 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>2001</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>4 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>2000</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>3 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1999</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>2 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1998</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>3 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1997</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>0 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1996</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>4 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1995</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>4 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1994</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>4 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I can't say I agree with your analysis. I'll give you that he won a title and Bo never did. If Michigan strives for 8 and 4, I guess Lloyd's your guy.

Bo's record in his first ten years

<TABLE width="90%"><TBODY><TR align=middle><TD>1979</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>4 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1978</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>2 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1977</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>2 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1976</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>2 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1975</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>2 </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1974</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>1 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=5><HR></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD width="17%">Year</TD><TD width="17%">Won</TD><TD width="17%">Lost</TD><TD width="17%">Tied</TD><TD width="32%">Notes</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=5><HR></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1973</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>0</TD><TD>1 </TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1972</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>1 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1971</TD><TD>11</TD><TD>1 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1970</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>1 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR align=middle><TD>1969</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>3 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
No titles, but a hell of a lot better overall.

[brutus2002]

The Big Ten has Penn State now. I know they haven't done much the last couple of years but in the 90's they were a factor. Purdue, Minnesota, Wisconsin, are alot better now than they were in the 70's and 80's. I don't really care about anything but NC.

I'll take 1 NC over 10 Big Ten Titles!!!!!