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View Poll Results: Are Paterno and Bowden overstaying
Yes, they are staying longer than they should. 23 82.14%
No, They should stay as long as they want to. 5 17.86%
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:24 PM
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I think the answer to the poll question is.....both. Yes, they're staying longer than they should, at least from the perspective that Penn State and Florida State are no longer the feared powerhouses they were in their prime and probably won't be as long as those two are still coaching. But I'd say they've also earned the right to dictate the terms of their own departure. If they haven't, who has?

After all, Penn State and Florida State aren't exactly dragging bottom, either. They're still good teams. They're still going bowling. And bringing in another coach won't necessarily put those programs back astride the college football world. Look at Nebraska. Look at Miami. Look at Alabama. All three used to be titans on the landscape, and don't have the excuse that their coach is an octogenarian and can't relate to the young'uns these days.
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AP photos

Currently JoPa is ahead by 1:

Paterno...376-125-3 (played 4 games so far this year)
Bowden...375-126-3 (played 3 games so far this year)

Oh, the suspense!!!

Who is forced to retire first?
Who ultimately leaves coaching with the most division 1A* wins?
It could go "down to the wire" and be a "photo finish".

*I really don't think either will pass Eddie Robinson's 408 wins.
Eddie Robinson (football coach - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
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I think JoePa has 376 wins, just 1 ahead.
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*I really don't think either will pass Eddie Robinson's 408 wins.
Bowden is trying to set the 1AA record as hard as he can.
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I think JoePa has 376 wins, just 1 ahead.
I think you are correct, I fixed it.

And math was my best subject in college too.
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Time for Florida State's Bowden to hang it up

CLEMSON ? No easy way to put this, because picking on Bobby Bowden feels kind of like cutting in front of a senior citizen at the local dinner buffet.
We know the 78-year-old Bowden is in a heated race with Penn State's Joe Paterno for all-time wins among major college coaches (Paterno, 81, leads 376-375 at the moment).
But everything we've seen lately tells us that Bowden needs to end this pursuit and hang up his headsets. And that's assuming he actually wears headsets anymore.
You see, Bowden doesn't do much coaching these days. He just sort of hangs around and watches Florida State struggle to pull itself from a morass of stunning mediocrity.
Bowden's accomplishments at Florida State are some of the most remarkable and admirable in college football history. The 14 straight years of finishing in the Top 5 (1987 to 2000) might be a more impressive feat than the national titles in 1993 and 1999.
But Bowden has gradually become the most hands-off coach you'll ever see ? or have ever seen. He sees himself as the program's CEO, but he's more Chief Executive Observer than Chief Executive Officer.
Second-year assistant Jimbo Fisher has been named coach-in-waiting, and that's a joke of a title when your boss is a coach-in-snoozing. Fisher's the one making the decisions. He's the one chewing out players for making silly mistakes. He's the one wearing the headsets.
Bowden? He stands off to the side, communicating little with his assistants or players. There's even some lackey whose job is to shadow Bowden and keep him abreast of what's happening on the field.
Sad.
Before Florida State's opener against Western Carolina a few weeks ago, Bowden allowed television cameras into the locker room to film his pre-game speech.
"Play hard, men," he said in a weak, quiet voice, reading from a piece of paper. "Play hard, and hit hard."
Depressing.
Watch a Penn State game sometime, and you'll see Paterno obsessively pacing the sidelines and concerning himself with even the most minute of details involving his team. Something tells us Paterno doesn't have to write down his pre-game message on a piece of paper.
What kind of effect does it have on a team's identity, a team's morale, when its coach is a mere figurehead who's so thoroughly detached from the proceedings?
What are we supposed to think when Bowden tells a columnist from the Denver Post that he doesn't let the Seminoles' decline bother him much?
"It's one thing about being my age," Bowden told the newspaper earlier this week. "Who cares? Hey, I can step out tomorrow and go to the beach."
Bowden, bless his heart, needs to do himself and his sterling legacy a favor by following through and replacing this smokescreen with sunscreen.

Entire article: Charleston, SC Latest Sports News: Time for Florida State's Bowden to hang it up
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