Pitt 13, West Virginia 9 (final)

[KreagerBuckeye]

Originally Posted by kartaron

Since you keep asking, yes, 13-9 was the 06 USC/UCLA score.

I only mentioned that because there were some eerie similarities:

heavily favored #2 team loses to a big rival that played awesome defense that day and was led by a mediocre coach.

[Tresselbeliever]

Mel Kiper Jr. just made a good point, that it's very hard to beat a team that has 12 men on the field, a reference to the refs making some ridiculous calls in WVU's favor. With everything on the line and with the refs doing everything they can to help you win, and you still lay a big turd, how in the world can you argue that this is still a titanic upset and not just you getting exposed as being very very average?

[DaddyBigBucks]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

Mel Kiper Jr. just made a good point, that it's very hard to beat a team that has 12 men on the field, a reference to the refs making some ridiculous calls in WVU's favor. With everything on the line and with the refs doing everything they can to help you win, and you still lay a big turd, how in the world can you argue that this is still a titanic upset and not just you getting exposed as being very very average?

To be honest, I don't think WVU is an average team. I think they were a legit, very good team that simply could not handle the bright lights of the big stage. They spit the bit. Missouri was beaten by a better team tonight. WVU just plain choked.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by DaddyBigBucks

To be honest, I don't think WVU is an average team. I think they were a legit, very good team that simply could not handle the bright lights of the big stage. They spit the bit. Missouri was beaten by a better team tonight. WVU just plain choked.

I can understand how a QB chokes in a big game by making some uncharacteristic decisions, or a defense having a tough day against a particular player. But Slaton, nine rushes for 11 yards? Devine Noel, seven rushes for 11 yards? Even Pat White was running at a clip of 3.5 a carry, and we are talking about a team that lives and dies by running the football.

And I would buy the chocking theory if they had beat some real teams, but the fact of the matter is, this is a team that has lost in consecutive years to South Florida in pretty much the same fashion and a team whose only impressive victory was three years ago against the tenth ranked Georgia Bulldogs.. Here's the breakdown of the last four seasons of medicrity:

2004:
Losses to VaTech, FSU, Pitt and BC. Most impressive win of the year: at home against Maryland by three.

2005: Opener, beats Syracuse 15-7. Gets blown out 34-17 by VaTech. Cruises past an easy Big Least schedule and finishes with a victory over UGA.

2006: Beats the #14th ranked Rutgers by 2 at home, and loses the other two remotely interesting games of the regular season to UL and South Florida. Beats unranked Georgia Tech in bowl by 3.

2007: Prides on beating teams like Cincy and Rutgers (imagine Ohio State saying, oh yeah we deserve respect cuz we beat Cincy) and losing in ugly fashion to South Florida and Pitt.

This is clearly the most overrated team in the past four years.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by Tresselbeliever

This is clearly the most overrated team in the past four years.

clearly?

I think there are a couple Ntre Ame teams that were blown up in bowl games that would beg to differ....

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

clearly?

I think there are a couple Ntre Ame teams that were blown up in bowl games that would beg to differ....

Thanks for putting in the uncomfortable spot of defending ND . But yeah, here it goes:

In 2004, ND defeated Michigan, MSU, Washington and #11 Tennessee. I doubt that WVU could have won any of those games that year.

In 2005, ND beat Michigan, blew Washington out on the road, scored a moral victory over SC, and beat Tenn.

In 2006, they beat a ranked PSU team.

So at least they got the chance to be embarrassed by playing good opponents. On the other hand, WVU don't play anyone, and when they do, they usually gets beat. If you think the Pitt game was ugly, put them in ND's shoes against Jamarcus Russell and LSU or AJ Hawk and Ohio State. That would truly be ugly.