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Old 12-21-2007, 05:48 PM
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In all honesty, in 2002 (our last NC coincidently) they did go 8-0 in conference to tie us for the Big Ten title...only an early season choke job against Iowa State kept them from 12-0...
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Old 12-21-2007, 05:57 PM
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Texas will not play us, we have tried many times, we had a home and home with USC a few years back, talks are going on with Oklahoma now, we had Miami a few years ago and we completed a home and home with Va. tech this year. As far as the conference being tough, OSU is the winner of your conference, playing everyone in your conference, yet there are at least 8 SEC teams with a stronger SOS ranking than yours while playing only a portion of the SEC teams. Do you really think we need an excuse?

1. OSU doesn't play everybody in the Big 10.

2. nobody doubts the strenght of the SEC. Like most conference games though they tend to be the toughest. I just don't personally think saying yuor conference is tough is an excuse to wuss out of a quailty OOC. If you are that good you should win.
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:02 PM
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Let me clarify a little more.

The Pats DIVISION is the AFC east. Pats play everyone in the AFC East (but not everyone in AFC). Winner of division gets into the playoffs (6 game playoff), to determine CONFERENCE champion. CONFERENCE champ gets automatic bowl berth (Super Bowl in this instance).

LSU's DIVISION is the SEC West. LSU plays everyone in SEC West (but not everyone in SEC). Winner of division goes to the playoff (1 game playoff), to determine CONFERENCE champion. CONFERENCE champion gets automatic Bowl berth (Sugar Bowl, sometime NCG).


Only difference is that the winner of the AFC is guaranteed a shot at the Title. The SEC champ is eligible, but it's not guaranteed.
There are 8 divisions in the NFL. There are 6 major conferences in D1-A football. There are 8 automatic playoff berths for winning your division in the NFL. There are 6 BCS berths for winning a major conference in D1-A. The SEC CCG is not comparable to the AFC or NFC playoffs. It does not confer an automatic berth into the NCG (although SEC fans feel that entitelment).
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There are 8 divisions in the NFL. There are 6 major conferences in D1-A football. There are 8 automatic playoff berths for winning your division in the NFL. There are 6 BCS berths for winning a major conference in D1-A. The SEC CCG is not comparable to the AFC or NFC playoffs. It does not confer an automatic berth into the NCG (although SEC fans feel that entitelment).
In fact, the CCG can (and in the case of the Big XII and ACC, has) give an undeserving team a shot. It's also why I think the winner of a Bball tourney getting to auto bid is stupid. Suppose a [censored] team like Northwestern lucks in to a Big Ten Tourney win.... autobid... for winning ... what, 3 games?

The Big XII - historically - provides a classic example of the "wrong team" winning.. and often.
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1. OSU doesn't play everybody in the Big 10.

2. nobody doubts the strenght of the SEC. Like most conference games though they tend to be the toughest. I just don't personally think saying yuor conference is tough is an excuse to wuss out of a quailty OOC. If you are that good you should win.
Of course it could be said that scheduling a good OOC opponent doesn't make up for playing a conference schedule loaded with non competitive teams also. The more competitive teams played in a season, the bigger toll it takes both Phys. and mentally and can cause teams to lose games that they normally would not have.
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Old 12-21-2007, 06:41 PM
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This Big 10 fan doesn't think the SEC should change how you choose the conference champion. I think the CCG will more often knock a team out of the BCS title game than help them get in.

If the Big 12 didn't have a CCG, the BCS title game would have been Mizzou and tOSU and the SEC fans would be bitching again.

And if West Virginia hadn't choked against Pitt, the only reason tOSU would have made the title game would have been the Big 12 CCG. I'm all for the ACC, Big 12, and SEC CCG games - it's another chance to knock somebody out of the top 2 BCS spots and open it up for tOSU.

And I only care about one thing - whatever's best for tSOU - if others think some conferences with title games and some without them isn't right, I don't give a [censored].
This post has been put through the Bull[censored] Detector and came out with a 100% No Bull[censored] Rating.
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