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05-06-2008, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by brutus2002
Yep and Michigan lost their entire OL...IIRC Illinois lost 2-3 OL. Thats 2-3 positions right there for illinois. TE goes to Jeff Cumberland. JLeman Left but they have two returning LB'ers who are very good. Both teams lost both safeties. I give the one corner spot to Vontae Davis of Illinois.
Honestly I would say Michigan is better than Illinois at both DE spots and one DT. I heard Illinois DL as a group is very talented but has no superstars. I'D give Michigan RB, one corner spot, and punter. 6 out of 24 including special teams is not very good. Illinois has a good team. Michigan still doesn't have the position that counts and thats QB...thats trumps anything. Michigans offense will not be good without a QB. Their defense is not deep or good enough to be on the field alot this season. If they sustain injuries this year like they did last they will not make a bowl.
OSU getting Pryor set RR back at least a year. Thats gives the B10 an extra year to adjust. Pryor to OSU fucked Michigan more than one way.
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First off, no, we did not lose our entire OL.
Second, what on earth was that about talent alone doesn't win you ball games? What does, then? Coaching? That guy we hired, what's-his-name....not a bad coach, despite what you think about his character.
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05-06-2008, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HailToMichigan
First off, no, we did not lose our entire OL.
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That's right.
You get your right tackle back. The guy that you called "The Human Turnstyle".
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05-06-2008, 08:17 AM
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On defense they lost their starting safeties and two best linebackers. Their D-line will be good but they lack depth at DE. Jamison and Graham cannot play every snap.
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05-06-2008, 08:40 AM
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Much of the loss from last year comes from the decision of Hart, Henne and Long to stay for their senior year. To assume that their back ups had no talent and didn't improve during the year while riding pine is probably not accurate. The loss of Mallet is a major set back, to be sure. But this is still a team that played the Bucks right down to the last possession and this is a program that recruits well even if they lost Pryor.
You can count on one finger the number of times this (UM) program has lost to both OSU and Penn State. That's better than the Buckeyes can say. That could well expand to two fingers this year, but they'll be in a bowl game and they'll be a load by the time they get to Columbus. After all Millie doesn't leave the island for nothing.
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05-06-2008, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cincibuck
You can count on one finger the number of times this (UM) program has lost to both OSU and Penn State. That's better than the Buckeyes can say.
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You lost me here. I can count the number of times scUM has lost to OSU and PSU in the same season on hell of a lot more fingers than one.
Conversley I can count how many times OSU has beaten both PSU and scUM on multiple fingers as well.
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05-06-2008, 09:01 AM
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You lost me here. I can count the number of times scUM has lost to OSU and PSU in the same season on hell of a lot more fingers than one.
Conversley I can count how many times OSU has beaten both PSU and scUM on multiple fingers as well.
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I doubt you can do that, Jax...
1994 was the only year Michigan lost to both PSU and OSU
Ohio State has beaten both Michigan and PSU 4 times since 02
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05-06-2008, 09:19 AM
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