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Old 06-03-2008, 05:56 PM
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That's exactly my point. "Way back when", in other words when I was a kid over 40 years ago, there were relatively few bowls and it was a really big deal to make one. There weren't [censored] bowls like the Motor City Bowl, Poulan Weedeater Bowl, etc. Still, even when there was a small expansion of bowl games, you still had to have a pretty good season to make one (10-2 or 9-3, finishing in the top two or three of your conference). Now, with the bowls now numbering 34, all you have to do is have a .500 season and you're a "bowl team". [censored] that.
Still, the fans continue to show up. Over 90% capacity in places like Mobile, Boise, and Detroit. (And the Motor City Bowl is in an NFL stadium.)

People may say they want a playoff. But they're still voting with their feet and wallets and filling up stadiums to watch Bowling Green get steamrolled by Tulsa. And if one of the main arguments for a playoff is that "the fans want it" on bodies of evidence like unscientific online polls and letters to columnists, then it's specious to argue against extra bowls when the evidence is in the seats.
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Still, the fans continue to show up. Over 90% capacity in places like Mobile, Boise, and Detroit. (And the Motor City Bowl is in an NFL stadium.)

People may say they want a playoff. But they're still voting with their feet and wallets and filling up stadiums to watch Bowling Green get steamrolled by Tulsa. And if one of the main arguments for a playoff is that "the fans want it" on bodies of evidence like unscientific online polls and letters to columnists, then it's specious to argue against extra bowls when the evidence is in the seats.
The Bowl game in San Diego every year is pretty much free admission and still there's less than 30% of the place full. Even though the almighty matchup between TCU and Norther Illinois was so highly regarded. Seriously, they were giving tickets away if you spent 50 Bux at some stores.
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The Bowl game in San Diego every year is pretty much free admission and still there's less than 30% of the place full. Even though the almighty matchup between TCU and Norther Illinois was so highly regarded. Seriously, they were giving tickets away if you spent 50 Bux at some stores.
[insert comment about fairweather football so cal fans]
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Still, the fans continue to show up. Over 90% capacity in places like Mobile, Boise, and Detroit. (And the Motor City Bowl is in an NFL stadium.)

People may say they want a playoff. But they're still voting with their feet and wallets and filling up stadiums to watch Bowling Green get steamrolled by Tulsa. And if one of the main arguments for a playoff is that "the fans want it" on bodies of evidence like unscientific online polls and letters to columnists, then it's specious to argue against extra bowls when the evidence is in the seats.
How much are tickets to those games? Mobile and Boise don't exactly have cavernous stadiums. In fact, Boise's Bronco stadium holds only 30,000 while Mobile's Ladd-Peebles Stadium holds just over 40,600. The GMAC Bowl had 36,932 people in a 40,600-seat stadium, and the MPC Computer Bowl had 27,062 in a 30,000-seat stadium...having almost 10% of the seats empty for bowl games in venues that small hardly supports your case. And there probably ain't a whole lot else to do in Boise or Mobile (I've been to Mobile several times) that time of year. By the way, Ford Field (Motor City Bowl) seats 70,000 for football and had only 60,624 for this past game (which was their all-time high for that bowl), which is nowhere near 90% capacity.
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How much are tickets to those games? Mobile and Boise don't exactly have cavernous stadiums. In fact, Boise's Bronco stadium holds only 30,000 while Mobile's Ladd-Peebles Stadium holds just over 40,600. The GMAC Bowl had 36,932 people in a 40,600-seat stadium, and the MPC Computer Bowl had 27,062 in a 30,000-seat stadium...having almost 10% of the seats empty for bowl games in venues that small hardly supports your case. And there probably ain't a whole lot else to do in Boise or Mobile (I've been to Mobile several times) that time of year. By the way, Ford Field (Motor City Bowl) seats 70,000 for football and had only 60,624 for this past game (which was their all-time high for that bowl), which is nowhere near 90% capacity.
It only seats 70,000 for football when the game is the Super Bowl, because then the stadium is allowed to remove all the handicapped seating on the premise that the Super Bowl is a "private party". Normal capacity for a Lions game or for the bowl game is about 65,000.

I don't know what ticket prices are for most games....for the Motor City Bowl this year I think we paid $45 per ticket. It doesn't really matter - the point is that there's interest in the games. And yeah, the venues are small....but for the most part they are also thousands of miles from the (relativel