![]() |
|
|
|||||||
| College Football The place to talk about college football teams other than Ohio State |
| View Poll Results: Best College RB You've Seen Since Barry Sanders? | |||
| LaDainian Tomlinson, TCU |
|
6 | 4.32% |
| Ron Dayne, Wisconsin |
|
2 | 1.44% |
| Michael Turner, Northern Illinois |
|
0 | 0% |
| DeAngelo Williams, Memphis |
|
1 | 0.72% |
| Garrett Wolfe, Northern Illinois |
|
1 | 0.72% |
| Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma |
|
43 | 30.94% |
| Reggie Bush, USC |
|
19 | 13.67% |
| Darren McFadden, Arkansas |
|
5 | 3.60% |
| Knowshon Moreno, Georgia |
|
0 | 0% |
| Beanie Wells, tOSU |
|
24 | 17.27% |
| Ricky Williams, Texas |
|
12 | 8.63% |
| Eddie George, tOSU |
|
19 | 13.67% |
| Rashaan Salaam, Colorado |
|
0 | 0% |
| Troy Davis, Iowa State |
|
0 | 0% |
| Warrick Dunn, Florida State |
|
0 | 0% |
| Ki-Jana Carter, Penn State |
|
0 | 0% |
| Marshall Faulk, San Diego State |
|
4 | 2.88% |
| Eric Bieniemy, Colorado |
|
0 | 0% |
| Emmitt Smith, Florida |
|
1 | 0.72% |
| Lawrence Phillips, Nebraska |
|
2 | 1.44% |
| Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll | |||
![]() |
|
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
|||||||||
|
Adrian Peterson. If it weren't for the injuries, he'd be in the "best ever" discussion.
Marshall Faulk would be a close second, as he compiled some amazing numbers for his career, albeit at a "mid-major" program: 4,589 yards (6.00 average) and 57 touchdowns rushing (6th best in NCAA history); 82 receptions for 973 yards and 5 touchdowns. Faulk is the NCAA career leader in points per game (376 points in 31 games, for an average of 12.1); and he is 6th in rushing yards per game (148.0) and 7th in all-purpose yards per game (180.5). Even with the great college production, Faulk's best days were as a pro, as he amassed 12,279 yards rushing, 6,875 yards receiving, and 136 total touchdowns during his 12-year career. Beanie would probably be third. He possesses a unique skill set (speed, power, stiff arm, beard) which can make him unstoppable at times, but he has a history of nagging injuries that have hampered his abilities and limited his production even when he has played. Plus he has some problems with fumblitis. Fast for a big man, but he doesn't have AP's breakaway speed, and he's not exactly elusive in the open field. Reggie Bush deserves to be in the discussion, but he is more of an "all-purpose back", as less than half of his 6,541 all-purpose yards came from rushing the football (3,169 yards and 25 TD's rushing; 1,301 yards and 13 TD's receiving; 1,522 yards and 1 TD on kick-off returns; 559 yards and 3 TD's on punt returns). A lot of the names on the list put up great numbers but weren't necessarily great running backs. I'd put Eddie George, Emmitt Smith, Ron Dayne, Ricky Williams, and Ki-Jana Carter in that category. But productivity and durability do count for something.... Rashaan Salaam is clearly the worst player on the list ... one of the most overrated college players of all time, a totally undeserved Heisman winner (Steve McNair should've won it that year), and a colossal bust as a pro. Quote:
Quote:
Maurice Clarett. Not the most productive Buckeye running back, not very durable, and certainly not a great guy off the field, but he displayed more raw talent and instinct in his nine games than any other Ohio State back that I have personally seen ... and he led the team to a national championship, which Archie, Eddie, Beanie, and Keith were unable to do. And yes, winning it all does count for something. Robert Smith was also supremely talented ... and definitely faster than any back on the list ... but he was stuck on some pretty mediocre Buckeye teams (15-7-2 in Smith's two seasons). He really blossomed in the NFL (6,818 yards (4.8 average) and 32 TD's rushing; 1,292 yards and 6 TD's receiving in just 8 seasons), and retired at the peak of his career (1,521 yards rushing, 348 yards receiving, 10 total TD's in his final season). Of the Buckeye backs that I have seen, I'd rank them ... based mostly on pure talent ... something like this: 1. Archie Griffin - all the records, 2 Heismans, a true legend 2. Maurice Clarett - so talented ... the great "what if?" 3. Beanie Wells - a throwback to Earl Campbell 4. Robert Smith - so smooth and fluid ... but the supporting cast (and coaching staff) was little help 5a. Keith Byars - a broken foot cost him a Heisman and the Buckeyes a shot at a national championship in 1985 5b. Eddie George - very productive in a very productive offense ... but a lot of guys would have shined in that situation 5c. Tim Spencer - his 3,553 yards ranks 3rd at OSU (behind Griffin and George), and his YPC (5.52) is identical to Eddie's. Who's the Greatest Running Back in the History of College Football? Last edited by LordJeffBuck; 12-03-2008 at 09:11 AM. Reason: Edit for BUCKYLE |
| Sponsored Links |
|
|||||||||
|
Just curious why Felix Jones makes you question him?
|
|
|||||||||
|
Ricky Williams
Maurice Clarett |
|
|||||||||
|
A couple of people have already said it in one way or another, but I'd take Clarett's nine games and his obvious talent an put him up against anyone on the list. As long as we're including caveats for other players' injuries, the strength or weakness of their competition or the strength or weakness of their teammates, I think you have to look past Clarett's flaws too and include him in this discussion.
|
|
|||||||||
|
I'm going off the board with Anthony Thompson of Indiana. I was in the Shoe when IU gave us the biggest home beating the Hoosiers have dealt to us since the Stone Age, 31-10 in 1987. They followed that up by pounding us 41-7 the next year in Bloomington.
He won the Maxwell Award and Walter Camp Award in 1989, and finished second to our pal Andre Ware for the Heisman. In 1989 he broke the NCAA record for career touchdowns in college with 68, a record later broken by Ricky Williams. I was surprised he did so little in the NFL, but in college he made Indiana a contender in the Big Ten. |
|
|||||||||
|
Check the average per carry for two guys in the same backfield last year:
.........................Carries..yards..ypc..long est..TDs Felix Jones, Arkansas......133....1162...8.7......73...11 Darren McFadden, Arkansas..325....1830...5.6......80...16 |
|
|||||||||
|
There's some pretty lofty names on that list. If you think any of them are no brainers, you need to take off your homer glasses and look around at some of the other phenomenal backs on that list.
|
|
|||||||||
|
Beanie is great,but I can't understand why some people can honestly say he is the best they have seen unless they don't watch other college football teams. Ahman Green who isn't even mentioned..
Freshman Wells 576 yards on 104,7td's Green 1,086 yards (still the school's single-season freshman rushing record@Nebraska) and 13 touchdowns on 141 carries. This was BEHIND lawerance Phillips +National Championship Sophmore Wells 1609 yards on 274 carries Green 917 yards on 155 carries and seven touchdowns (injury) Junior Wells 1091 on 191, 8td's (injury) Green 278 times for 1,877 yards 22 td's (12 consecutive 100-yard games, including three contests with over 200 yards) National Championship Totals Wells 569 Carries,3276yards,30 td's 63 yards receiving Green 574 Carries,3880 yards,42 td's 35 Catches,300 yards receiving,3 td's |
|
|||||||||
|
Quote:
Also, to whomever put the tag down there...I have admitted as much in Beanie's thread. |
|
|||||||||
|
Well, best back I've ever seen in person is Herschel Walker...but that is a few years prior.
|
|
|||||||||
|
I thought about putting Green on the list, but I thought most people could agree that Phillips was clearly the better back of the two.
As far as stats go, if you're going to measure stats, Ricky Williams has to be the pick. Green played in an offense that exclusively ran the ball. I voted Beanie because Beanie is the most talented running back I've seen at the college level since Barry. AP - Great, great talent, and a close second, but Beanie just has more power. Bush - I have a hard time simplifying him to running back status, especially when he split carries his entire career. Phillips - Right there with Beanie and AP. Beanie is just the best combination of speed, power, agility, and strength I've seen in a long time. |
|
|||||||||
|
Quote:
What if Jim Brown wasn't 235lbs playing against nfl teams that didn't have very many guys that big on defense? Can you imagine the defenses he faced at syracuse? What if Bo Jackson never was injured? Green played behind one of the best college backs in the history of the game as a freshman and had over a 1000 yards rushing on a small amount of carries. It does make a difference,because most rb's wouldn't get 1000 yards rushing behind him. I like pittman,but there's no comparison with Phillips. Green was injured his sophmore year. Quote:
Yes he did..Look at the total amount of carries he had versus beanie..He also had 300 yards receiving on a run happy squad. Green-574 Carries,3880 yards,42 td's,Wells-569 Carries,3276yards,30 td's Ricky Williams is not just about stats. If you watch his films he is one of the most punishing runners that ever played on a field. He wasn't a speed demon,and he played in a rough conference at the time. Ungodly vision,balance and toughness. If Ricky Williams would have played at OSU,he would be one of the poster boys for ohio state history. |
|
|||||||||
|
Quote:
If you changed the question to "runner" instead of RB, then I would reconsider my response. |
![]() |
| Tags |
| beanie = eddie +1, beard > heisman, buckyle has a mancrush, eddie > beanie, eddie = beanie + infinity, troy davis=goat |
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|