Capital One Bowl: Georgia 24, Mich St 12 (Final)

[LordJeffBuck]

Originally Posted by bukIpower

I can't wait for the day that all OSU, PSU,
WISC, Illinois, scUM, NW, and MSU are all great teams.

I hope that you are still young, because you'll probably have to wait quite a while....

Originally Posted by bukIpower

Because to be honest there's no reason why OSU/PSU/UM shouldn't be among the best, and WISC/Ill/NW/MSU all have the tools to be eventual great teams as well.

To be honest, there is - it's called lack of a recruiting base. Almost all of the great prospects in Ohio end up at Ohio State, and most of the great ones from Pennsylvania end up at Penn State or Ohio State; Michigan and Notre Dame still get a few kids here and there. The second-tier kids often take SEC / ACC / Big East offers over other Big Ten offers. There is very little high school talent in the rest of the Big Ten region, and much of that talent ends up at the Big Four (OSU, PSU, UM, ND) anyway, or heads out of the region. So, you have two teams in the region getting fat off of their local talent (OSU, PSU), two more teams who can still compete for that talent (UM, ND) and also have national recruiting power, and the rest of the Big Ten who are constantly scrambling to get: (a) the occasional in-state prospect with three/four-star talent, or (b) third-tier players from states with lots of high school talent (Ohio, Florida, Texas, etc.); or (c) JUCO's. Simply put, teams like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa, Purdue, and Michigan State can't consistently be competitive because they can't get the top talent on campus. The SEC - with huge talent pools in Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana - and the Big 12 - with a ton of high school talent in Texas - just don't have the same problems with recruiting ... and they also have other factors in their favor (primarily climate related) that Big 10 schools can't counter. Ditto, obviously, for Southern Cal.

Originally Posted by bukIpower

IMO, the outlook for the conference is extremely bright but not so much this year.

I do not see one shred of evidence in support of that statement.

Woe to the Big Ten if Ohio State ever decides to leave....

[tibor75]

If Dantonio turns MSU around, and RR is still screwing up scUM, expect Dantonio to jump ship. MSU is simply a stepping stone to a better job. Always has been, always will be.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by tibor75

If Dantonio turns MSU around, and RR is still screwing up scUM, expect Dantonio to jump ship. MSU is simply a stepping stone to a better job. Always has been, always will be.

Duffy Daugherty says hello.

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[tibor75]

Originally Posted by BB73

Duffy Daugherty says hello.

cfbdatawarehouse.duffy_year_by_year

61% winning percentage? yeah, impressive.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by tibor75

61% winning percentage? yeah, impressive.

My point was that after going 10-1 in '65 and 9-0-1 in '66, and being recognized as a National Champion in each of those years, he didn't leave for another job, since your post said MSU was "always" a "stepping stone to a better job".

Clearly, it wasn't always.

[Tresselbeliever]

It's tough to win a football game without a real QB. Same with Wisconsin.