2009 TSUN News (football only discussion)

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by OregonBuckeye

Unfortunately for him, he doesn't have any players anywhere close to that caliber.

And thus far, he doesn't appear to be recruiting them...

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

It worked in 04 with Derrick Johnson, Rodrigue Wright, Aaron Ross, Michael Huff... other than against Henne & co. Of course, Auburn's DC improved upon his results defensive, IIRC.

In 2005, Syracuse was 97th against the run. This would be their high point. The next 3 seasons under Robinson (as a head coach), they would not make the top-100 in total defense or rushing defense.

Rodrique Wright, Larry Dibbles and Franklin Odom. That's three five star DTs that they had on the '04 squad. Dibbles was a tweener but not a small DL by any stretch of imagination.

[Poe McKnoe]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

Scout.com: Michigan No Longer Pursuing Paulus

BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[jwinslow]

http://westvirginia.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=936255

UM chasing Javarie Johnson, a Dunbar (DC) LB that holds offers from WVU, ILL & MSU. Visiting UM Friday & Sparty Saturday.

[Jaxbuck]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

Scout.com: Michigan No Longer Pursuing Paulus

First we lose 4 years of Shaved Beaver/Dick Rod jokes and now this.

Sonofabitch.

[jwinslow]

Originally Posted by Jaxbuck

First we lose 4 years of Shaved Beaver/Dick Rod jokes and now this.

For the terminally immature , you'll still have Mike Cox who might get the rock from Munchie Legeaux.

[Jaxbuck]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

For the terminally immature , you'll still have Mike Cox who might get the rock from Munchie Legeaux.

That has some potential(and I was diagnosed as terminally immature over 30 years ago, I'm still kicking. Doctors don't know [censored]).

[Poe McKnoe]

Originally Posted by Jaxbuck

First we lose 4 years of Shaved Beaver/Dick Rod jokes and now this.

Sonofabitch.

Here's to hoping that Paulus enrolls at Syracuse, wins the starting job, throws for 3000 yards and rushes for 1000, and leads the Orange to the National Championship.

Meanwhile, Tater Tot struggles, D Rob is a slot guy, and Sheridan wins the starting job back in a 2-10 season where the best defense is a bad offense [because the Michigan defense is even worse than that].

Now that would be a perfect ending.

[BB73]

Originally Posted by Poe McKnoe

Here's to hoping that Paulus enrolls at Syracuse, wins the starting job, throws for 3000 yards and rushes for 1000, and leads the Orange to the National Championship.

Meanwhile, Tater Tot struggles, D Rob is a slot guy, and Sheridan wins the starting job back in a 2-10 season where the best defense is a bad offense [because the Michigan defense is even worse than that].

Now that would be a perfect ending.

I'd prefer Syracuse losing to tOSU in the BCS Title game.

[xcrunner]

Originally Posted by jwinslow

I'm looking more long term.

You have Vlad Emilien, Marvin Robinson, JT Turner & Woolfolk... and basically had the last 3 wrapped up before RR changed schools. There are more than enough quality safeties, assuming they are developed properly. CB will remain solid with Christian and Mathis likely added this year.

So far, it looks like the two DE verbals (Roh '09, Kinnard '10) are both actually spinners, at least for the time being. Derrick Bryant is probably the best DE UM will land this year, along with some depth guys. Lalota is not a defender.

LB remains a question mark to me until Fitzgerald emerges. LB & DE remain a long term concern. As for the spinner position, I'm not sold on Herron being more than a tweener at this point.

DT has very little depth, but with RR only playing one, that is less of a concern.

Bolded for emphasis

[NFBuck]

scUM's commits and their rankings at their respective positions:

Per Scout:
QB- 7; RB- 41, NR; WR- 19, 26, 75, NR; DE- 46; S- 14

Their best chance at a top-10 (by position) player is Cass-Tech CB Dior Mathis (#6 CB)...

This is the recruiting juggernaut they were all forecasting?

[heisman]

The players he recruits for his "system" are not exactly NFL prospects in the first place. Expect them to be "rated" accordingly.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by heisman

The players he recruits for his "system" are not exactly NFL prospects in the first place. Expect them to be "rated" accordingly.

That may be, but that wasn't the prevailing opinion when he took the job up there. And that may be acceptable on offense, but it doesn't wash on defense.

[OregonBuckeye]

Originally Posted by heisman

The players he recruits for his "system" are not exactly NFL prospects in the first place. Expect them to be "rated" accordingly.

Neither is Florida's and they dominate at recruiting.

[heisman]

Originally Posted by NFBuck

That may be, but that wasn't the prevailing opinion when he took the job up there. And that may be acceptable on offense, but it doesn't wash on defense.

I have no clue what the "prevailing opinion" was, but recruiting rankings don't stop people on defense. Tsun doesn't stop anyone on defense because they don't develop players or have coaches that put them in the right positions. For example, I think Donovan Warren has regressed horribly, yet he was "ranked" very high.