Michigan State RB Javon Ringer

[coxew]

Originally Posted by JCOSU86

Now THAT'S good news. Where did you hear that?

The premium link indicates that the academics have improved as well as his ACT and an A in a summer English course. He realized that without keeping the grades up he can't play ball which is his ultimate goal. At camp, Tressel basically told him not to get down about not getting an offer and they would stay in touch. I didn't mean to imply that he WAS getting an offer but that with his improved academic standing since last talking to JT an offer could POSSIBLY be coming. Sorry for the confusion.

[BuckNutty]

"Ohio State is a school that I can really see myself at," he said. "If things work out, I’d like to be Buckeye."

After reading that article I'd like to see Ringer be a Buckeye too. Well, I've wanted him to be a Buckeye for a while now and reading some of his quotes has done nothing to change my mind

[JCOSU86]

Thanks, coxew. Not doubting you at all. I just love hearing things like that, especially when coming on the heels of the Dennis Kennedy situation.

[buckchuck]

Everyone has been focusing on the grades isssue as to why Javon has not been offered but there may also be a size issue as well. I had the opportunity to see Javon at Ohio State's senior camp where he posted an amazing standing broad jump of 10' 5" to easily beat Manningham's 9'11". Javon is solidly built but he is no where near the 5'10" and 210 pounds I have seen listed for him. He is more like 5'8" and 175-180 pounds. This may not be up to Big Ten standards and is one of the reasons listed for little interest being shown for Sutton, the running back from Akron Hoban, whose stats are on a par with Javon's.

This is not to say Javon is not a great player or will not receive an offer but it may also be another factor as to why he has not been offered.

[wdg01]

Originally Posted by buckchuck

Everyone has been focusing on the grades isssue as to why Javon has not been offered but there may also be a size issue as well. I had the opportunity to see Javon at Ohio State's senior camp where he posted an amazing standing broad jump of 10' 5" to easily beat Manningham's 9'11". Javon is solidly built but he is no where near the 5'10" and 210 pounds I have seen listed for him. He is more like 5'8" and 175-180 pounds. This may not be up to Big Ten standards and is one of the reasons listed for little interest being shown for Sutton, the running back from Akron Hoban, whose stats are on a par with Javon's.

This is not to say Javon is not a great player or will not receive an offer but it may also be another factor as to why he has not been offered.

Javon was measured at the Nike camp at 5-9 and 186. I believe Wells was 5-9 and 177...

[buckchuck]

I saw that listing myself but I stood right next to him and he was at least two inches shorter than me and I am 5'10". It is difficult to quess weight and Javon was solid so the weight may be correct but that height listing is a stretch. If you saw him in person, you would know what I am saying. He is a small running back.

[Buckeye737]

He may be on the small side, but I don't think I've ever seen so much outcry for a player to be offered like I have for Ringer. I'm talking about guys on this board who know their [censored] and have seen Ringer in person or on tape and have been blown away. It would be another thing if the opinion was coming from .

[jlb1705]

There was outcry like this last year for a while for Delbert Ferguson, who is now at UC. Ferguson though, didn't have near the highlight reel that Ringer has.

As far as his size goes, I don't think it's that big of an issue. Those who have seen VG's videos of him can attest that while he may weigh 180, he runs with the power of a 230 lb. back. Plus, he still has time to add a little size.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by jlb1705

There was outcry like this last year for a while for Delbert Ferguson, who is now at UC. Ferguson though, didn't have near the highlight reel that Ringer has.

As far as his size goes, I don't think it's that big of an issue. Those who have seen VG's videos of him can attest that while he may weigh 180, he runs with the power of a 230 lb. back. Plus, he still has time to add a little size.

Fergie broke his leg, thats a huge risk, plus i think we may have found out we missed out on him in a big way probably not this year but in the future

And ill plug the VG too he runs a real good site during peak recruiting times

[Buckeye737]

Originally Posted by jlb1705

There was outcry like this last year for a while for Delbert Ferguson, who is now at UC. Ferguson though, didn't have near the highlight reel that Ringer has.

No doubt there was some outcry for Fergi, but I don't think it's anything like with Ringer. There were a number of people who had seen Delbert and were not impressed along with the fact that he couldn't hold on to the ball to save his life.

[GoofyBuckeye]

I'm telling you guys, it's his grades...this is coming straight from the mouth of one of his ex-coaches.

He's had a past of being sloppy in the classroom. Barely passing classes is the big one. He only recently started to get his butt in gear in the classroom. He looks like he'll qualify but he'll do it barely and may not finish in the top 50% of his class. I believe his history of laziness in the classroom is the main culprit in his problems with getting a schollie from OSU..

That being said, I also believe part of it is the fact that OSU wants Wells bad enough that they'll wait to offer another RB and see what Wells does first. All of you, I'm sure, remember what happened a few years back with Clarett and Wynn. Wynn SHOULD have been offered but never was because the staff wanted Clarett and promised him he'd be the only RB in the class. This is probably what's happening with Ringer and Wells also. Had Ringer been good in the classroom all through HS it may be a different story though.

It's not like OSU needs to take more than 1 RB in this class anyways.

[coxew]

Originally Posted by GoofyBuckeye

It's not like OSU needs to take more than 1 RB in this class anyways.

I have to disagree. As it stands, Haw and Pittman are the only RB's we have heading into the '05 season. I certainly don't want to end up in a situation like we had last year with a banged up Ross and Hall heading into the season and having to move Guillford from S o RB. If Kennedy were still here, I may think a bit differently but heading into a season with two RB's each with one year experience and another with no experience is a huge gamble. The Big 10 is too tough of a league to only have three RB's. We got lucky in '02 that Clarett was able to come in and perform the way he did. As good as our recruits are, I'm 99.99% sure none of them will perform as well from day one as Maurice did. If we can bring in two this year and Chris Wells next year I'll feel good about our RB position. I can't imagine having another year without bringing in a true RB recruit.

[gbearbuck]

I've seen Ringer play in person... all I can say is the kid is a freak... he has power, speed, vision... and is always a threat. The other teams plans around him, and he still gets the job done (and then some)...

He carried his team his soph. year... he was great last year... and will more than likely be great this year... the kid needs to get his grades in order and become a buckeye (if he is offered)...

[GoofyBuckeye]

You may be right about needing more than one RB. I'm just saying, it's looking awfully similiar to the Clarett situation....

Guilford may come back and I am hearing that O'Neal could very well end up an RB depending on how he does this year playing that spot for Glenville. I think that's a great idea.

[BuckNutty]

Originally Posted by GoofyBuckeye

I am hearing that O'Neal could very well end up an RB depending on how he does this year playing that spot for Glenville. I think that's a great idea.

O'Neal or Lenix?