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Old 06-05-2007, 04:42 PM
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:48 PM
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The difference is UM recruits well enough to compensate for in-state woes (either recruiting or talent). PSU cannot do this.
That is the elephant in the room PSU fans cannot ignore when talking of their recruiting - now and into the future.

It used to be that Penn State had a huge net into NJ, MD, VA and other East Coast states. That is no longer true.

It used to be that Penn State could depend on getting more than one or two Ohio boys into their classes. Zordich notwithstanding, in the future I see that as less and less likely as the MAC schools pick of some and TSUN Iowa, TN and others continue border raiding.

It used to be the case that Penn State could depend on the cream of the crop in PA, with only Pitt or ND as the primary competition. That is far from the truth these days. In fact, there is discontent among their fan base about the lack of positive relationships JoePa has had, for some time, with HS coaches across the state of PA.

None of the above is going to change till Joe retires in my view.
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It used to be that Penn State had a huge net into NJ, MD, VA and other East Coast states. That is no longer true.
And the longer Rich Rodriguez, Greg Schiano, and Ralph the Fridge stick around, the worse it's going to get. The re-emerging ND influence in NJ coupled with the inroads that USC has made there recently certainly can't help either.
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And the longer Rich Rodriguez, Greg Schiano, and Ralph the Fridge stick around, the worse it's going to get. The re-emerging ND influence in NJ coupled with the inroads that USC has made there recently certainly can't help either.
I agree. And even more than that, a lot of the kids in these states just seem really fickle. One year PSU is the hot school for the Maryland kids. The next year its Florida. Same with NJ. Rutgers is keeping some big guys at home. ND will always be a force with the big influence of the Catholic high schools where many of the top prospects are. It just seems like counting on these states is a recipe for really inconsistent recruiting results.
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Uneasy times on PSU recruiting trail
Frank Bodani

Article Launched: 06/11/2007 06:12:33 AM EDT
Jun 11, 2007

It's a disconcerting thought for Penn State football fans, no matter how you spin it. The Nittany Lions may end this recruiting season without landing any of Pennsylvania's very best high school recruits.
That can't be good, can it?
Has that ever even happened?

Cont...
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