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08-02-2004, 02:44 PM
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Split Thread: Silent Verbals
Its well known that Slick Petey's strategy is to make sure that commits stay "silent" as long as possible so other schools waste their time recruiting them which prevents them from going after the actual "open" recruits. I hope the OSU coaches know if anything that is going on, b/c SC might want him to waste our time by taking the official visit and making it seem that he has serious interest. |
08-03-2004, 03:12 PM
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The reason for the silent verbals in Pete's case isn't to encourage other schools to waste their time on recruits that are committed, it's to prevent other recruits from being scared off by top ranked guys already in the recruiting class at their position. For instance, if Maurice Wells knew that Marlon Lucky was already committed to USC he might not look at them as hard.
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08-03-2004, 03:15 PM
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it's to prevent other recruits from being scared off by top ranked guys already in the recruiting class at their position. For instance, if Maurice Wells knew that Marlon Lucky was already committed to USC he might not look at them as hard.
Silent verbals are pure bull[censored] and should be a violation of NCAA rules. A prospective recruit should know who else is committed at a school for just the reason sighted above. It's purposely deceptive.
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It is no doubt a sleazy way to approach recruiting, but to make it a violation would be difficult. It is one of those loopholes that can't be pulled tight, since verbals don't really mean much. Sleazy Petey is all about the silent but deadly verbalage.
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08-03-2004, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jrandosu
It is no doubt a sleazy way to approach recruiting, but to make it a violation would be difficult. It is one of those loopholes that can't be pulled tight, since verbals don't really mean much. Sleazy Petey is all about the silent but deadly verbalage.
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Is there actually proof that Pete C asks recruits to remain "silent" so that he can disguise potential depth charts? I know some of their own fans claim that he does that, but I always thought they were just being ignorant. I can not envision a coach, especially high profile coach like Pete, being that unethical. Maybe I am naive. |
08-03-2004, 06:32 PM
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What's unethical about it ? Nothing's final until Feb. Until you sign your loi you are free to say or not say whatever you want to whomever you want. If a recruit knew in June where he was going but didn't announce it until Feb., is that unethical ? If a kid tells Pete "Just between you and me I'm coming to SC" and Pete says " lets keep it between us until signing day " is it really anybody else's business ?
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08-03-2004, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crazybuckeye
What's unethical about it ? Nothing's final until Feb. Until you sign your loi you are free to say or not say whatever you want to whomever you want. If a recruit knew in June where he was going but didn't announce it until Feb., is that unethical ? If a kid tells Pete "Just between you and me I'm coming to SC" and Pete says " lets keep it between us until signing day " is it really anybody else's business ?
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First, the vast majority of verbal commits do indeed sign to where they commit...the switcheroo is quite rare, thus any verbal commitment is a solid indicator of what will materialize. So, the "nothing is final until NLOID" argument doesn't hold a whole lot of water. There's also a big difference between being able to "say whatever you want to whomever you want" and being ethical. Do you think it was ethical when Richard Washington pulled the NLOID switch job on us last year? Didn't think so. As far as whose business it is, I think it is indeed everyone's business if a kid commits to take up a scholarship position at a school of which many other prospects are considering. Other prospects have a right to know whether or not a position is available at a school they're considering.
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08-03-2004, 08:15 PM
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If a coach and player are having a discussion about how to handle a commitment with the intent to deceive other recruits (read teenagers) I would call that unethical.
That said, it can be a two edged sword. I think last season OSU had strong indications that a certain running back was coming here and may have backed off of other recruits as a result. He went in another direction and we were left scrambling. |
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