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10-14-2008, 03:27 PM
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Always be wary of kids peaking too early. I'm not saying that Simon has done that, but someone evaluating him could certainly get that impression, as it seems that his play has dropped off somewhat over the past two seasons. Injuries and loss of surrounding talent (Zordich, Beachum, Hill, McCarthy) also have to be factored into the equation.
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Simon hasn't attended close to as many "events" as others have. Once he got that Buckeye offer he had nothing to prove. Services can't grade what they don't see. |
10-14-2008, 03:32 PM
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Simon hasn't attended close to as many "events" as others have. Once he got that Buckeye offer he had nothing to prove. Services can't grade what they don't see.
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Yes, we all understand that. It is conceivable that Bellamy, who seems to be tearing it up on both sides of the ball, Carter and maybe Reid Fragel could get elevated to where they belong eventually, and even Johnny once again, too. We'll see. After all, Rivals got it right in the end w/BigMike, I'll give them credit for that. |
10-14-2008, 04:44 PM
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Rivals.com Football Recruiting - Several moves in the latest Rivals250
The Rivals250 - 8-14-08
Of note:
#26 Dorian Bell
#28 Jamie Wood
#29 Melvin Fellows
#44 Jaamal Berry
#54 Marlon Brown
#63 C.J. Barnett
#64 Jordan Whiting
#65 Frankie Telfort
#68 Marcus Hall
#74 Justin Green
#78 John Martinez
#79 Corey Brown
#97 Corey Adams
#103 Chris Fields
#112 John Simon
#166 Corey Linsley
#196 Storm Klein
#208 James Jackson
#218 Brad McDougald
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The Rivals250 - 10-14-08
Of note:
#27 Dorian Bell
#29 Jamie Wood
#43 Corey Brown
#47 Jamaal Berry
#57 Marlon Brown
#67 C.J. Barnett
#69 Frankie Telfort
#72 Marcus Hall
#78 Justin Green
#81 John Martinez
#92 Melvin Fellows
#98 Corey Adams
#109 Chris Fields
#162 Corey Linsley
#205 Storm Klein
#213 James Jackson
#222 Brad McDougald
Out: John Simon, Jordan Whiting
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Big mover: Rivals.com was on hand to watch him early in 2008 and he proved he?s belongs among the nation?s best skilled players.
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Recorded 92 tackles, seven sacks and nine batted passes in 2007. Has struggled some as a senior as teams are running away from him, but he does still have a high ceiling.
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Further bolstering the notion that more often than not, uncommitted recruits do not sell subscriptions...exceptions to the rule include Corey Brown and Matt Barkley (11 INTs in 5 games). And somehow Jack Lippert and his offers from Pitt, Temple and Buffalo remains at #170 while guys like Simon and Eric Fields drop out of the Top 250 completely.
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10-14-2008, 06:27 PM
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Honestly the rankings just get sickening eventually. Hall is way too low, Adams is way too low, Marlon Brown is WAY too low, Fellows is WAY too low (and having an unbelievable senior campaign, which Rivals just said he didn't as justification for droping him), and Bell stays the same. In Rivals defense on commited vs. noncommited, Brown is dropping and he is uncomitted. Problem with that is that there is now way on earth he should be dropping any. Simon not even being in the top 250 is astounding...he may have reached an early ceiling (though I don't know about that), but even still he is at bare minimum top 250, and should be top 100. I just can't believe it.
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10-14-2008, 07:37 PM
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Scout's rankings are much more accurate, imo. Rivals doesn't even have Duron Carter as a 4*.
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No offense buckeye fans but Pryor just isn't that great. Wait till you get in another big game against a real defense and see if Pryor's athletic ability will bail him out... mark it down here your not winning the BCS with that guy as your QB.
Kudos to him for being a naturally gifted athlete though.
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10-14-2008, 08:53 PM
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It's THE TODD Time!
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I think Simon is pretty overrated, at least by Ohio State fans, but dropping him to 3* stars is pretty laughable. I don't think he's a top 100 guy, though...not enough production in high school for someone as big and strong as he is, and I think his frame is about maxed out as.
I'm also not that high on Brown. Big kid who dominates terrible competition, and I think he eventually grows into a TE; however, I'd still welcome him in this class for sure.
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10-15-2008, 10:47 AM
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Has struggled some as a senior as teams are running away from him, but he does still have a high ceiling.
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Having teams base their offensive game plan around avoiding you does not mean you are struggling.
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10-15-2008, 12:52 PM
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