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By The Bank...very candid interview with Zach...talks about the offer, which he has been told is completely independent of whatever decision his brother makes, about the infamous story of his brother considering a verbal to OSU and about where he projects at the next level.

and mross' bring up a valid point...I don't think it is inconceivable to imagine that Homan grows into a LEO/DE...
Highly impressive answers. Certainly sounds like a leader!
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FYI, I linked the Rivals article back in that post as well...
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What has been wrong with our FB play?? They've done a solid job.. even guys like Tank, who dont look like they have an ounce of skills in them...
You can't really use Tank to support your argument, he supports the other side of the debate if you ask me. He's a walkon turned scholarship player by hard-nosed play & tremendous work ethic... not on Zach Boren's level as a prospect. When Tank was not blocking last fall, the FB play was average at best, imo... at least for the first 10 games or so.

Dionte Johnson arrived with tremendous pedigree (son of former OSU great and NFL starting LB) & was even awarded the honor of captain, yet was not as effective as the strangely proportioned 'tank' if you ask me.
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For those using the typical A.J. Hawk response.. IMO this kid doesnt display the agility, sideline to sideline ability, or quickness which AJ displayed in HS.. It's a myth that Hawk was a no name player.. he would have been a 4 star player if not for the injury he suffered..
You're ignoring the larger point, which is more than just one isolated case of hawk-andrea... some of OSU's best players were complete nobodies in terms of recruiting visibility (Laurinaitis, Robiskie, Washington, Russell). Heck even Gholston was thought to be too much of a project by UM.
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What has been wrong with our FB play?? They've done a solid job.. even guys like Tank, who dont look like they have an ounce of skills in them...
Maybe I'm wrong. My perception stems from the way Tressel recruits by size/speed rather than position, and perhaps a more liberal rotation of players.

When I look at the FB position however, I see players that didn't pan out at other positions. I see that there hasn't been a go-to player at FB since Jamar Martin. Joe and Schnittker split time. Schnittker and Johnson split time. White and Johnson split time. Whaley and Johnson split time. And now we have three guys that have never hit anybody in anger in a Big Ten game, and one of them is hurt. That's not to say that neither of them will step up, but the FB position is far from being set at this moment.
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Any chance he grows into a DT?

This is a big class, so one ship to pull a solid player and get his brother who could be an all big ten lineman is a good use of a ship by me...
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You can't really use Tank to support your argument, he supports the other side of the debate if you ask me. He's a walkon turned scholarship player by hard-nosed play & tremendous work ethic... not on Zach Boren's level as a prospect. When Tank was not blocking last fall, the FB play was average at best, imo... at least for the first 10 games or so.

Pepper Johnson arrived with tremendous pedigree (former OSU great and NFL starting LB) & was even awarded the honor of captain, yet was not as effective as the strangely proportioned 'tank' if you ask me.
You're ignoring the larger point, which is more than just one isolated case of hawk-andrea... some of OSU's best players were complete nobodies in terms of recruiting visibility (Laurinaitis, Robiskie, Washington, Russell). Heck even Gholston was thought to be too much of a project by UM.
Those players werent respected by recruiting services... but if u watched them you saw skills.. you saw projectability.. you saw elements of talent that could be developed..

I dont see that in Boren on the defensive side of the ball.. Im not gonna continue to go on about it cause i dont want to knock the kid, cause he's a fine player for Pick Central. But at his height and his size, he cant even project at the next level defensively IMO...

Will be be a 6'1 defensive end? Will he be a 250 pound LB? I just dont see skills that you can project at the next level, outside of strength, determination, and straight line quickness..

Would that make a heckuva FB.. yea it would granted he knows how to play FB..

My point isnt that he wont be a great FB.. it's that why are we recruiting three FBs in the last two classes, when those roster spots could be filled with better players who project at more important positions