CBF40'S Look at '09 recruiting

[t_BuckeyeScott]

Originally Posted by Buckeye86

good call everyone, I'm getting my recruiting classes and the seasons mixed up, this years class is the '09 class, this years season is the '08 season

still, I think we skip on a QB this year and go after (and probably land) some big fish next year due to the reasons I said above (lack of depth, chances that Pryor leaves early)

It's not quite as dire as only 2 QBs seem. There's always Ross Olotrick. Zach Domicone, and Ohrian Johnson. Wait

[sepia5]

Wow. This QB situation just got really tough. On the one hand, the 2009 class is already almost filled up, and we're effectively waiting it out on a number of topflight recruits. Also, having brought in Pryor last year, how many worthwhile QBs this year would legitimately be willing to give a verbal and risk sitting for 2-3 years?

On the other hand, I'm not real comfortable with the thought of having two QBs on roster next year when, I think, despite lots of losses after this season, we'll still be a contender for another Big Ten Championship and a BCS spot. I know Pentello, Domicone, and Johnson all have QB experience and could serve as a temporary 3rd stringer, but what if it actually did come down to relying on one of them (probably Johnson)? Still, I'd hate to use a scholarship on a guy this season that isn't likely to be more than a third stringer. Enter Newton, IMO. Again, I know it isn't likely, but I think an offer to Newton would be wise. Even though we aren't likely to land him, given that teams he's interested in like Illinois, Kentucky, Purdue, and South Carolina are shopping for a QB, not having signed anyone that would really be competition from the '08 class, I think it's worth the offer. Essentially, if you could land a player of Newton's caliber, you can't say he isn't worth the scholarship, and he does seem to have teams like Clemson (which signed a topnotch QB in '08 (though, admittedly not TP)) and Florida (which is pretty well set at QB for the next couple years) near the top of his list. Still, you can't sell Newton on an argument along the lines of "take a red shirt, take your time, we'll get you ready to take over when TP leaves and you'll man the ship for 2 or 3 years," because the whole point is we need him available for the '09 season if he's going to be here. Also, signing Newton may have the effect of scaring a guy like Gardner off, though I think any difference between the two is largely de minimis.

In short, I would argue that an offer to Newton would be worthwhile at this point. However, anyone less capable probably wouldn't be worth the offer. Chances are we'll be fine in '09 no matter what, because even if the unthinkable happened and we had to go to a third-stringer, we have emergency options. But if you can bring in a Morgan Newton, why not just do it and get him ready to take over now when TP leaves? Given the Henton transfer, I think bringing in a top notch QB would actually be more valuable than signing a 7th DB/ATH type. The reality of the situation, however, is that this is not likely to happen. I'm sure that the staff has known about Henton's impending departure for a while now, and the fact that no QBs, including Newton, have gotten an offer to date suggests we won't see it happen at all.

[Tresselbeliever]

Originally Posted by osubartender23

Bauserman might not be on scholarship, but if he wouldnt have pursued minor league baseball he would be. So I dont necessarily consider him the average run of the mill walk on .

The positive is that these two promising young QBs will get a LOT of reps and more individual attention.

Yeah I think Bauserman will have just as good of a shot of being the starter after Boeckman as Prior. So I don't consider him to be an average walk-on.

We would be screwed in '09 if Bauserman and Pryor are both unavailable regardless whether we take a QB this year. If they find a really fantasic prospect, they should take him but I don't think they should reach for a QB just to fulfill the need. I think Pat Nicely would fit better at a school that focuses on a short and intermediate passing game in a spread offense.

[MililaniBuckeye]

Well, I guess it's time to fess up that I'm softening my stance on not taking 25 commits this class. With Clifford likely gone and Henton cutting bait, we now have at least 24 to give this class, and at least one junior will declare early.

Plus the ideal distribution of commits across classes is 21 for three of four years and 22 for the remaining year of the four (85 total), so with us having at least 18 to give for 2010, that's close enough (and that's not including any early departees via draft declaration or transfer which likely will happen).

[crazybuckfan40]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

Well, I guess it's time to fess up that I'm softening my stance on not taking 25 commits this class. With Clifford likely gone and Henton cutting bait, we now have at least 24 to give this class, and at least one junior will declare early.

Plus the ideal distribution of commits across classes is 21 for three of four years and 22 for the remaining year of the four (85 total), so with us having at least 18 to give for 2010, that's close enough (and that's not including any early departees via draft declaration or transfer which likely will happen).

Glad to see you coming around...

[tmporter]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

Well, I guess it's time to fess up that I'm softening my stance on not taking 25 commits this class. With Clifford likely gone and Henton cutting bait, we now have at least 24 to give this class, and at least one junior will declare early.

Plus the ideal distribution of commits across classes is 21 for three of four years and 22 for the remaining year of the four (85 total), so with us having at least 18 to give for 2010, that's close enough (and that's not including any early departees via draft declaration or transfer which likely will happen).

Uh Oh. Milli is starting to see the end of the tunnel (09 recruiting tunnel) is in the 27 range rather than the 22-23 range. I am looking forward to this recruiting year being over early. Atleast mostly done by fall I would say. That is not going to make for much in the way of recruiting drama around here in the winter.

[Piney]

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