CBF40's Look at '10 recruiting

[RB07OSU]

Originally Posted by DontHateOState

We need to get in on some top OOS DT's. The position is simply lacking in Ohio and we can't make do with the converted DE's anymore.

Yep. Zook said this when he was talking about recruiting in Big 10 country vs. the SEC states and I basically agree...he said there is plenty of speed in the midwest, but mostly at skill positions. The premier DT's and DE's seem to grow on trees in the south. Yes, you will have some talent in the region and this year I think Fellows and Simon are as good as about anyone in the country. Anyways, I agree. After watching some film and games of '10 prospects, I have an updated list of the top 25 in Ohio:
1. Spencer Ware ATH
2. Matt James OL
3. Jamel Turner LB/DE
4. Jordan Hicks LB
5. J.T. Moore DE
6. Erick Howard RB
7. Andrew Norwell OL
8. Terrance Talbot CB
9. Jerald Robinson WR
10. Derrick Bryant DE
11. Alex Smith TE
12. Taylor Miller OL
13. Darryl Baldwin DE
14. Derrick Roback QB
15. Scott McVey LB
16. Christian Bryant CB
17. Mike Dorsey ATH
18. Zac Rosenbauer LB
19. Dwight Macon QB
20. Anthony Shrock WR
21. O'Neal Brown DE
22. Nick Galvin LB
23. D.J. Williamson ATH
24. Jayrone Elliot DE
25. Andre Givens ATH

[crazybuckfan40]

I think Dorsey is higher than 17...He is one of my favorite players in state...I would put him in the top 10 for sure...

As for the question about offering Bolden I turly have no idea...Just a gut feeling, and I would say we wait to offer a QB, as they usually don't come too early...

[Buckeyecty4]

Originally Posted by RB07OSU

Yep. Zook said this when he was talking about recruiting in Big 10 country vs. the SEC states and I basically agree...he said there is plenty of speed in the midwest, but mostly at skill positions. The premier DT's and DE's seem to grow on trees in the south. Yes, you will have some talent in the region and this year I think Fellows and Simon are as good as about anyone in the country. Anyways, I agree. After watching some film and games of '10 prospects, I have an updated list of the top 25 in Ohio:
1. Spencer Ware ATH
2. Matt James OL
3. Jamel Turner LB/DE
4. Jordan Hicks LB
5. J.T. Moore DE
6. Erick Howard RB
7. Andrew Norwell OL
8. Terrance Talbot CB
9. Jerald Robinson WR
10. Derrick Bryant DE
11. Alex Smith TE
12. Taylor Miller OL
13. Darryl Baldwin DE
14. Derrick Roback QB
15. Scott McVey LB
16. Christian Bryant CB
17. Mike Dorsey ATH
18. Zac Rosenbauer LB
19. Dwight Macon QB
20. Anthony Shrock WR
21. O'Neal Brown DE
22. Nick Galvin LB
23. D.J. Williamson ATH
24. Jayrone Elliot DE
25. Andre Givens ATH

Pretty solid.. Although Id have Galvin, Christian Bryant, and Dorsey higher..

And I would rank Moore and Ware lower..

I have Hicks #1 and actually prefer Norwell to James at this time.. I think Norwell is nastier

My top 5 in this way too early moment would be

1)Hicks
2)Turner
3)Norwell
4)Howard
5)James

[crazybuckfan40]

I just don't see anyway that Ware is not a top 5 player...

He looked great against Colerain, and it isn't just speed that gets him places it is his ability to break tackles, make guys miss, and then use his burst and speed...

I really like Hicks don't get me wrong, but Ware is just that good...

I am the opposite about James and Norwell...

Top 5 I would go

1. Ware
2. Turner
3. James
4. Hicks
5. Norwell

What is crazy about that list is 4 of them are from Cincy...Lets just hope that Tress can pull these kids in from an area we used to struggle in...

After that I would go

6. Darryl Baldwin
7. Derrick Bryant
8. Mike Dorsey
9. Erik Howard
10. Not real sure, lots of guys like Givens, Talbott, Brown, Bryant, Smith, Robinson, Miller...

Seems like another very good year for top end talent in Ohio...

[RB07OSU]

Originally Posted by crazybuckfan40

I just don't see anyway that Ware is not a top 5 player...

He looked great against Colerain, and it isn't just speed that gets him places it is his ability to break tackles, make guys miss, and then use his burst and speed...

I really like Hicks don't get me wrong, but Ware is just that good...

I am the opposite about James and Norwell...

Top 5 I would go

1. Ware
2. Turner
3. James
4. Hicks
5. Norwell

What is crazy about that list is 4 of them are from Cincy...Lets just hope that Tress can pull these kids in from an area we used to struggle in...

After that I would go

6. Darryl Baldwin
7. Derrick Bryant
8. Mike Dorsey
9. Erik Howard
10. Not real sure, lots of guys like Givens, Talbott, Brown, Bryant, Smith, Robinson, Miller...

Seems like another very good year for top end talent in Ohio...

Agreed...call me a homer, but I could see any of that top five being 5 stars potentially. I think this '10 is a lot better in terms of high end talent than '09. I think if Ware, James, Turner, Norwell, and Hicks hit some combines, they all could be in serious contention for 5 star status.

[Hodgepodge]

FWIW, here are four sleepers to keep an eye on. I'm not saying they will end up being OSU caliber, but none of them are being talked about much right now and they each have a chance to get into the top 25 in Ohio.

Devin Clodfelter (5-10 190 TB, Columbus Independence). As far as I can tell, he leads Ohio in rushing yards thus far this year with a nice combination of speed and physicality. Independence always seems to have a stud tailback, although none has yet done much in college (e.g., Erik Haw, OSU and Jackson St.; Jacob Ramsey, Cincinnati; Luther Nicholas, Urbana). Perhaps Clodfelter will break that trend.

Marcus Rush (6-3 210 LB Cincinnati Moeller). Rush had a solid year as a sophomore, but was in classmate and fellow LB Nick Galvin's shadow. However, he has really stepped it up this year and may have a brighter future than Galvin. He compares favorably to former Moeller player Greg Jones, who now starts for MSU.

Antonio Kinard (6-4 195 LB Youngstown Liberty). Kinard is overshadowed by seniors Fitzgerald Toussaint, Isaiah Bell, and Julius Ferrell, but Kinard is a prospect in his own right. Rangy and athletic, Kinard should burst onto the scene in the spring combines.

Micah Robinson (6-3 240 DE Cleveland John Adams). John Adams has come out of nowhere this year, and Robinson is a big reason why. He has double-digit sacks on the year and has had some games where he's been completely dominant. In a great year for DEs in Ohio, Robinson is one you don't want to forget.

[pnuts34]

Just wondering, does anyone have any info on the kid from East Cleveland mentioned on the Bucknuts website? I believe his name is Tyrone Williams and he's 6'5''.

[Buckeyecty4]

Williams was offered by Ohio St. according to the Buckeyegrove/Rivals staff

[wadc45]

Here's a kid I would love to see the staff take a look at:

'10 IN DE Blake Lueders - Recruiting Forums

[leroyjenkins]

That kids got some thickness in his neck.

[wadc45]

Another 2010 kid getting a lot of early looks but not much interest from OSU is right here in Columbus:

'10 OH CB Jude Adjei-Barimah - Recruiting Forums

[LitlBuck]

I am certainly not an expert but his 40 time does not look that good for a CB.

[wadc45]

Originally Posted by LitlBuck

I am certainly not an expert but his 40 time does not look that good for a CB.

A) His Rivals profile now shows a 40 of 4.51
B) His Scout profile shows a combine timed 40 of 4.78
C) He has plenty of time to improve upon his 40
D) 40 times are vastly overrated when it comes to matters of recruiting, IMO

[akronbuck]

Tyson gully Rb 5'9 180
Akron Garfield
173 att 1,376 yds 8 avg 18 tds
Inland District All Stars Division 1 1st Teamer RB
Been hearing great things about him all season. I saw him play buchtel for the city title and it was the last city game in the rubber bowl where, Akron u plays. He was amazing.
I knew he won the city 100 meters in track as a sophomore but, this kid is fast as heck with great vision. Some big ten and mac schools have been asking about him. He started as a freshmen so he must be special.

[Hodgepodge]

Another sleeper to keep an eye on is Toledo Central Catholic's Nate Hobbs. Hobbs is a 6-0 180 cornerback/wide receiver who had a very nice year on both sides of the ball before his team was shockingly beaten in the first round of the playoffs. I think he'll end up in the Big Ten, no lower that a MSU-caliber program.