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Old 05-07-2008, 09:47 AM
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i give the guy credit, you rarely can say it isnt his own list. hes willing to go against the flow on some of the guys. sometimes hes right, sometimes hes wrong. its nothing more than another view to be taken with a grain of salt. in less than year these lists will mean nothing, heck i really believe the lists mean nothing now. as an nhl agent i know always says, your draft spot is important for one day, then it doesnt mean a darn thing...
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:48 AM
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1) Its a prospect list...not position specific.

2) I know Duane likes Mewhort better on defensive potential due to how he comes off the ball. Also, he will be the first to tell you that OL/DL is the toughest to rate and that usually equals lower rankings.

3) I'm not a Payne fan but Duane knows more about that situation...apparently the kid does CARRIES that team and is often running for his life. He likes his potential.



I'm not accusing anyone yet...but I smell a little Scout/BN bias here and we will not play that game on BP.

If you want to discuss the list, do it with the usal amount of class and sense that we expect around here.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:08 AM
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the next time duane long watches any kid on this list play in person will be the first time.
also true of most people in this thread.

Lets not fall into that ND mindset where all OSU recruits are being snubbed and should be higher if they aren't top 10.

I haven't done this, but it would be interesting to look back at his list from the last few years and see how his success in predicting compares to rivals and other sources.
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:10 AM
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where was isiah bell ranked?
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also true of most people in this thread.

Lets not fall into that ND mindset where all OSU recruits are being snubbed and should be higher if they aren't top 10.

I haven't done this, but it would be interesting to look back at his list from the last few years and see how his success in predicting compares to rivals and other sources.
Very true.

Also, I will get more information from one half of a gamefilm than going to a kid's game. Watching 3-4 gamefilms paints a pretty good picture...loafs, missed assignments, etc. You see the ugly that highlight films don't show.


Honestly, how many of you said "Jack who??" or "Linsley what??" when they were offered?

Now that they are committed/leaning they should suddenly have a guaranteed spot on every Ohio High School list?
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Old 05-07-2008, 10:21 AM
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also true of most people in this thread.

Lets not fall into that ND mindset where all OSU recruits are being snubbed and should be higher if they aren't top 10.

I haven't done this, but it would be interesting to look back at his list from the last few years and see how his success in predicting compares to rivals and other sources.

that is probably true of most people on this board. however, most people on this board aren't producing a list and using it as a product to get individuals to give money to their website.
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Not guaranteed, but there definitely needs to be some justification with some of these rankings. I think a few of these goes beyond where he just think player X is better than player Y based solely on film. I think he's taking some gambles ranking projects (like Brandt and Payne) so high, and hoping they pan out.

I'd have no problem with the rankings if I thought they were really how Long feels about their talent, but I don't think that's the case.

I'm also someone without any loyalties to any recruiting site (Why people even have loyalties to recruiting sites is beyond me).

It's like when someone puts a team like Pitt in the top 15 to start the season. Is it based on anything they've done in the past? No, but there's the potential that it will pan out and that person will look like a genius.
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