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[Buckskin86]

Sunday Special: Greynolds: Matta clueless
GlenOak coach upset by Ohio State's treatment of Koufos
Sunday, June 29, 2008
BY Todd Porter
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER

No matter how long Jack Greynolds Jr. coaches, he knows it is extremely unlikely that he will get another player like Kosta Koufos.

Greynolds, though, would tell you at least he got the chance to coach Koufos at GlenOak High School. He might also tell you Ohio State Head Coach Thad Matta never really took the opportunity.

Koufos was taken 23rd overall by the Utah Jazz on Thursday in the first round of the NBA Draft.

It is safe to say there is no love lost, at least as far as Greynolds is concerned, between the GlenOak coach and Matta. Greynolds isn't pleased with how Koufos' freshman season went at Ohio State, and there were rumblings in the weeks leading up to the draft that Matta held Koufos back as a freshman to try to persuade him from being a one-and-done player.

Koufos averaged about 16 points a game in his first 10 Ohio State games. His numbers dwindled during the Big Ten season when he averaged just 12 points a game in the conference. Some of that could have been the fact that Big Ten teams know one another well and they scout each other better than non-conference opponents.

But Koufos came on again at the end of the season as his offensive opportunities increased. He earned the NIT Most Valuable Player Award during the Buckeyes postseason run. By then, overtures were being made that Koufos was looking at the NBA Draft, and Koufos became more involved in the offense.

Greynolds doesn't like it.

"Listen, if you can't get along with a kid like Kosta, then you're clueless," Greynolds said. "If you're making $2 million season and can't figure out how to use a 7-foot-1 kid, you're clueless. If you can't get along with a kid who comes early, stays late and gets good grades, you're clueless, and you've got the problem."

NOT A SECRET

The Matta-Koufos relationship wasn't a secret in NBA circles. Yannis Koutroupis, a writer for hoopsworld.com, knew about it.

"I really think it was to his benefit to play at Ohio State, but he and his family weren't on the same page with Thad Matta," Koutroupis said. "That's one of the reasons he decided to leave. ... Things weren't working out for him at Ohio State. I do think he could've dominated and become a top-five pick next year."

Koufos keeps saying he enjoyed his time at Ohio State, that he remains a Buckeye fan and that he's grateful for the opportunity Matta gave him.

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[OSUBasketballJunkie]

This whole thing revolves around how KK was utilized at tOSU.....not how he was treated....it is about philosophy and it is pretty classless for a HS coach to be critical of a fellow coach via a newspaper in my opinion....

[notfadeaway]

Originally Posted by OHSportsFan9

Agreed...F both of them...

[LitlBuck]

Memo to Greynolds:

Tell your kids to stay in school until the quarter is over so they do not put the University that gave them a free education in jeopardy of losing a scholarship. Also, don't treat them like babies in high school because they won't be treated like that when they play in college.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by Buckskin86

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KK's HS Coach takes shots at Thad

Sunday Special: Greynolds: Matta clueless
GlenOak coach upset by Ohio State's treatment of Koufos
Sunday, June 29, 2008
BY Todd Porter
REPOSITORY SPORTS WRITER







CantonRep.com | The Canton Repository | Canton, Stark County & Northeast Ohio News, Community Events & Classifieds

dont know greynolds as a person i do know he leaves a lot to be desired as a basketball mind...

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

This Greynolds is the clueless one. I wonder if he even watched all of Ohio State's games last season. If he did he would've seen how soft KK played, and why many people thought he needed to stay an extra year (at least) to really advance his game.

[BuckeyeTillIDie]

"As much as he was getting screwed over, he always said the right things in the paper. He's not like some of the turds they recruit" - Greynolds

What the hell is this guy talking about? Real mature of an old man to call college kids "turds". What a tool.

[Wingate1217]

Don't you think that Thad and/or his staff would have informed KK of that....
Heck, I even know that it would hurt the Buck's APR rating and I am not the one on schollie.... Amazing...

Koufos' decision to leave Ohio State wasn't a welcome one in Columbus. His departure will hurt the Buckeyes' APR rating, a grading scale used by the NCAA. Koufos and his mother, Kathy, said they were unaware that if Koufos left in the middle of the spring quarter that it could factor into OSU losing a scholarship because of APR sanctions

[LitlBuck]

Don't think we will be seeing any basketball recruits from GlenOak in the near future This guy really knows how to make friends in the state of Ohio.

[ScriptOhio]

Originally Posted by LitlBuck

Don't think we will be seeing any basketball recruits from GlenOak in the near future This guy really knows how to make friends in the state of Ohio.

This may not be totally true. A high school coach may give a player advice as to which college to attend; however, in the final analysis the player and his family are gong to make the ultimate decision.

I found this in an article on the web (his father, Jack Greynolds is in Ohio High School Basketball Coaches Hall of Fame):
CANTON, OH ?
GlenOak basketball coach Jack Greynolds Jr. has plenty of traits in common with his renowned late father. Now, he can add another one, having coached an eventual NBA player.
Greynolds has high hopes for Koufos - Massillon, OH - The Independent

Apparently a trait that Jr. didn't inherit from his father was to "show some class by knowing when to just keep your mouth shut".

I'll go way out on a limb here and say that Greynolds probably isn't on Matta's "short list" of coaches to fill the Groce vacancy.

[jimotis4heisman]

ok im guilty of it to. but were starting to go down a line that is bordering on bashing people...

back to matta

[LitlBuck]

While I agree with much of what has been said about his high school coach in Matta's thread, and the above post, and I was one of the negative posters, that has to stop here.

[Steve19]

Question: What is the difference betwee Jack Greynolds Jr.and Thad Matta ?

Answer: The former will never coach a player of Kosta Koufos' ability ever again. The latter will.

There is no need for further discussion or to react by running down Koufos or his coach.

[MaxBuck]

Originally Posted by Steve19

Question: What is the difference betwee Jack Greynolds Jr.and Thad Matta ?

Answer: The former will never coach a player of Kosta Koufos' ability ever again. The latter will.

Brilliant. Great insight and comment.

I wish Kosta Koufos the best, always, with the Utah Jazz and for the rest of his career.

With that being said, I believe the Ohio State Buckeye basketball team is better for his being a "one and done." Addition by subtraction IMO.

[osugrad21]

Dispatch

How Koufos really feels?

Kosta Koufos was nothing but polite and respectful all the way to the end of his one and only season at Ohio State, calling Thad Matta a great coach and saying he would have played one season for the Buckeyes even if the NBA had not instituted a rule requiring players to be one year out of high school before entering the draft.
Koufos left it to others in his camp to air whatever dirty laundry accumulated during his year in Columbus, and his coach at Canton GlenOak High School, Jack Greynolds Jr., aired it today in the Canton Repository.
Greynolds didn?t use the word ?great? to describe Matta. Greynolds called Matta ?clueless.?
"Listen, if you can't get along with a kid like Kosta, then you're clueless," Greynolds said. "If you're making $2 million (a) season and can't figure out how to use a 7-foot-1 kid, you're clueless. If you can't get along with a kid who comes early, stays late and gets good grades, you're clueless, and you've got the problem."
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