2008 Kirk Herbstreit Ohio vs. USA Challenge

[osugrad21]

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Herbstreit '08 lures champs
BY TOM GROESCHEN | TGROESCHEN@ENQUIRER.COM


Seven-time Missouri state champion Rockhurst, four-time Indiana champion Warren Central and three-time Florida champ St. Thomas Aquinas are among teams verbally committed to the 2008 Kirk Herbstreit Ohio vs. USA Challenge high school football event.
Jim Herbstreit, father of event founder Kirk Herbstreit and matchmaker for the games, said Wednesday that Cincinnati powers St. Xavier, Colerain, Elder and Moeller also tentatively have agreed to play in the September 2008 event. Details are being arranged.
The event this year was held on Labor Day weekend at two venues, UC's Nippert Stadium and Canton's Fawcett Stadium.



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[Buckskin86]

Headliner: St. X vs. 'Bama champ
Herbstreit's Ohio vs. USA challenge lined up
BY TOM GROESCHEN | TGROESCHEN@ENQUIRER.COM

Saturday, Aug. 30, at Paul Brown Stadium

11 a.m. - Middletown vs. St. Thomas Aquinas (Fla.)

2 p.m. - Huber Heights Wayne vs. Warren Central (Ind.)

5 p.m. - Colerain vs. McKeesport (Pa.)

8 p.m. - St. Xavier vs. Prattville (Ala.)


Sunday, Aug. 31 at Paul Brown Stadium

Noon - Elder vs. East St. Louis (Ill.)

3 p.m. - Moeller vs. Montgomery Bell (Tenn.)

6 p.m. - Lakota West vs. St. Rita (Ill.)

The Enquirer - Headliner: St. X vs. 'Bama champ

[BurgBuck52]

I wonder if there will be any protesters at the event because of what Herbie said about Pryor.

[starBUCKS]

I wish some more 614 teams would be a part of it. Dublin, Hillard and UA would be great additions.

[IronBuckI]

Originally Posted by BurgBuck52

I wonder if there will be any protesters at the event because of what Herbie said about Pryor.

I don't know what Herbie said about Pryor (don't really care either), but I would hope that the good that Kirk does for Ohio High School football would be the focus of an event like this.

[mercer_buckeye]

When are they going to extend this down to the smaller divisions? I don't mean to sound like a homer, but the MAC would love to compete with some small schools from other states. Just curious is it a money thing? Or is that taken care of by Herbie's backers.

[DaveyBoy]

agree....614 football is a whole lot better than it was 20 years ago when I played....oops, 25 years ago.

[Worm02]

Originally Posted by Buckskin86

Headliner: St. X vs. 'Bama champ
Herbstreit's Ohio vs. USA challenge lined up
BY TOM GROESCHEN | TGROESCHEN@ENQUIRER.COM



The Enquirer - Headliner: St. X vs. 'Bama champ

Here are the North matchups, which will be palyed at Canton's Fawcett Stadium on Saturday, August 30.

11 AM: Howland (Warren, Ohio) vs. Woodland Hills (PA)

2 PM: McKinley (Canton) vs. Cathedral (Indianapolis)

5 PM: Cardinal Mooney (Youngstown, Ohio) vs. Covington Catholic (Covington, Ky.)

8 PM: Washington (Massillon, Ohio) vs. Jordan (Sandy, Utah)

http://blogs.usatoday.com/preprally/...gs-for-he.html

[Brutus1]

What is Howland doing in there?

[Worm02]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

What is Howland doing in there?

Actually, Howland had a very solid year last year, going 11-1 before losing a close game in the second round of the playoffs to Mayfield. Traditionally, they wouldn't stack up to a team like Canton McKinley, but they would have likely beat them rather easily last year. Howland has never been a bad football program, they just aren't a great one yet. This area isn't that big at all, and most of the top football talent goes to Harding, especially since the majority of the talent is in the city (Howland is a suburb).

Howland is a lot better than some of the teams that have been in the Herbie. If schools like Huber Heights Wayne, Lakota West, Middletown, and Grove City can be in it, than I see absolutely nothing wrong with Howland being in it. I hope that they make the most of their opportunity.

[Buckskin86]

Herbstreit schedule set
BY TOM GROESCHEN | TGROESCHEN@ENQUIRER.COM

The tweaking is complete. The 2008 Kirk Herbstreit Ohio vs. USA Challenge football schedule is set for Labor Day weekend, according to project manager Nathan Noel of the Chicago-based Intersport sports marketing firm.

The Cincinnati schedule originally was announced several weeks ago but underwent some changes since. The final version, provided today by Noel:

Sat. Aug. 30 at Paul Brown Stadium

11 a.m. - Middletown vs. St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla.

2 p.m. - Elder vs. Warren Central, Ind.

5 p.m. - Colerain vs. McKeesport, Pa.

8 p.m. - St. Xavier vs. Prattville, Ala.


Sun. Aug. 31 at Paul Brown Stadium

Noon - Moeller vs. Montgomery Bell, Tenn.

3 p.m. - Huber Heights Wayne vs. East St. Louis, Ill.

6 p.m. - Lakota West vs. St. Rita, Ill.

The North (Canton) Herbstreit venue will play four games on Saturday:

Sat. Aug. 30 at Canton Fawcett Stadium

11 a.m. - Warren Howland vs. Woodland Hills, Pa.

2 p.m. - Canton McKinley vs. Indianapolis Cathedral

5 p.m. - Youngstown Cardinal Mooney vs. Covington Catholic, Ky.

8 p.m. - Massillon vs. Jordan, Utah

Television remains a possibility, with ESPN possibly to do the Moeller game, and ESPNU the Huber Heights Wayne game on Aug. 31. Negotiations continue.

The Enquirer - Herbstreit schedule set

[Brutus1]

Originally Posted by Worm02

Actually, Howland had a very solid year last year, going 11-1 before losing a close game in the second round of the playoffs to Mayfield. Traditionally, they wouldn't stack up to a team like Canton McKinley, but they would have likely beat them rather easily last year. Howland has never been a bad football program, they just aren't a great one yet. This area isn't that big at all, and most of the top football talent goes to Harding, especially since the majority of the talent is in the city (Howland is a suburb).

Howland is a lot better than some of the teams that have been in the Herbie. If schools like Huber Heights Wayne, Lakota West, Middletown, and Grove City can be in it, than I see absolutely nothing wrong with Howland being in it. I hope that they make the most of their opportunity.

Sure, they had a decent year last year, but I can think of 20 other teams that would have beaten them last year. If they wanted to add a non D1 Ohio team, they should have added Steubenville. They're always a much better team than Howland (I live in Howland, too). Hopefully they don't get waxed.

[osugrad21]

DDN

Wayne draws new foe; Trotwood going to Texas


By Staff report

Wednesday, April 16, 2008

Wayne High School will meet a new opponent, and Trotwood-Madison will venture to Texas during a couple of Labor Day Weekend prep football events this fall.
Wayne will play East St. Louis (Ill.) at 3 p.m. Aug. 31 at Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati in the Kirk Herbstreit Ohio vs. USA Challenge. Originally, the Warriors were to have played Warren Central (Ind.).



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[Worm02]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

Sure, they had a decent year last year, but I can think of 20 other teams that would have beaten them last year. If they wanted to add a non D1 Ohio team, they should have added Steubenville. They're always a much better team than Howland (I live in Howland, too). Hopefully they don't get waxed.

I agree, but there are just as many if not more teams in Ohio who are better than Middletown, Lakota West, Grove City, Centerville, Wayne, and even Elder (recently). If Ohio sent their absolute best to the Herbie, than you wouldn't have seen nearly half of the teams that have been in it. It would be nice to see that happen, but scheduling is an issue. Then again, who thought in week 2 of the 06 season that Hilliard Davidson, who beat Philedelphia St. Joeseph in that year's Herbie, would go on to win the Division 1 state championship? Let's just be happy that we have an event like this here in our own backyard.

Being an avid Warren Harding supporter, I would love to see them in it, BUT Howland will get their shot first, and I'll be rooting for them. No, they aren't one of the best programs in Ohio traditionally, but there have been teams in this event who are a LOT worse than they are. Just because Howland was good last year doesn't mean that they'll be strong again this year, but this is a huge test for their program. Woodland Hills is a solid program in PA, but they had an off year last year, similar to schools like Harding and Canton McKinley here in Ohio. Howland will have a nice chance to get a W for Ohio, unlike a couple of the huge mismatches that will reseult in a huge L for us. In fact, as much as I respect their programs, who knows if Massillon &/or McKinley have recovered from their bad years (last season & this offseason)? I hope so.

FWIW, if northern Ohio was really able to send their best programs to the Herbie last year, you would have your pick out of Cleveland St. Ignatius, Canton McKinley, Massillon Washington, Warren Harding, Mentor, and Lakewood St. Edward. Three of those programs had rebuilding seasons last year, while another one underachieved miserably. In most seasons, it would be hard to bet against those programs against anybody, but last year that group would have been lucky to finish above .500 if all of them would have been in the Herbie (they would have sold out Fawcett or Paul Brown Staium easily though). Howland is kinda like a "darkhorse" in this year's event, but they should represent Ohio well.

[GoodLifeSean]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

What is Howland doing in there?

My Dad's friends with the Howland Head Coach, we actually watched the state games with him last year... He definately has some very high hopes for this upcoming season. Possibly moreso than last years's playoff team