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12-19-2007, 03:19 PM
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Here is my response to all the Pryor and Rodriguez stuff:
I guess TP's aspirations end with playing QB in college, rather than developing the skills needed to be sucessful at the highest level? Name the last QB RR developed into an NFL-caliber player...now name the last one JT developed (Troy Smith). Heck, he even got Krenzel a chance in the NFL...something most people thought was impossible. The fact is the staff has plenty of time to continue to assure Terrelle that OSU will develop their offensive scheme to maximize his potential. Add to that the continuing effort of Posey, Thomas, Brewster, etc. in recruiting him to OSU and I am not concerned at this point.
I am fully prepared for the circus...but in the end I still will be surprised to see him go anywhere other than OSU.
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I would hardly say JT has been successful at developing QB's for the next level. Troy Smith is nothing more than a 3rd stringer that was drafted in the 5th round playing due too injuries and Krenzel isn't even good enough to make a team's active roster. Though I am sure he has aspirations of the NFL eventually I am sure that isn't one of his primary reasons. If it was he wouldn't be looking at either RRod's Michigan or TP's Buckeyes. If those were his primary worries Michigan (under Carr), Texas or USC would have been at the top of his list.
He is obviously interested in Big Blue so these next couple of months should be interesting. OSU is still the leader by a long shot IMO but Michigan now has a horse in the race and it is a pretty good horse.
TP wants to win football games and there are few coaches in the country that have won more games than JT and RRod in the last 3 years. Both coaches are going to mold their offenses around the guy. I think his numbers would probably be better at Michigan because RRod is an offensive genius and frankly, they will need too be better with their defensive questions.
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12-19-2007, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hailyes
I would hardly say JT has been successful at developing QB's for the next level. Troy Smith is nothing more than a 3rd stringer that was drafted in the 5th round playing due too injuries and Krenzel isn't even good enough to make a team's active roster. Though I am sure he has aspirations of the NFL eventually I am sure that isn't one of his primary reasons. If it was he wouldn't be looking at either RRod's Michigan or TP's Buckeyes. If those were his primary worries Michigan (under Carr), Texas or USC would have been at the top of his list.
He is obviously interested in Big Blue so these next couple of months should be interesting. OSU is still the leader by a long shot IMO but Michigan now has a horse in the race and it is a pretty good horse.
TP wants to win football games and there are few coaches in the country that have won more games than JT and RRod in the last 3 years. Both coaches are going to mold their offenses around the guy. I think his numbers would probably be better at Michigan because RRod is an offensive genius and frankly, they will need too be better with their defensive questions.
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You had better check you facts before trolling here, Michigan fan. Troy Smith is not a 3rd-stringer but rather a firm backup who is seriously challenging for the starting job.
Back to Pryor. Texas and USC would not be a factor in any way because of distance...then again, had you been paying attention to Pryor's recruitment from the git-go rather than becoming a Johnny-come-lately simply because now TP seems interested in Michigan, then you'd have known that.
As for RR being an "offensive genius", he really looked like one when they scored 9 points at home against the vaunted Pittsburgh defense. 
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12-19-2007, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Hailyes
I would hardly say JT has been successful at developing QB's for the next level. Troy Smith is nothing more than a 3rd stringer that was drafted in the 5th round playing due too injuries and Krenzel isn't even good enough to make a team's active roster.
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Trollboy:
As recently as this last weekend's game, Troy came in and played quite well. As Mili said, he's vying for the back-up job. Regarding Krenzel, you obviously don't watch much NFL since he started games for Chicago.
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Originally Posted by DA
Though I am sure he has aspirations of the NFL eventually I am sure that isn't one of his primary reasons. If it was he wouldn't be looking at either RRod's Michigan or TP's Buckeyes. If those were his primary worries Michigan (under Carr), Texas or USC would have been at the top of his list.
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And if you actually read a thread before posting, you might learn that TP has an interest in staying close to home. Check your map. Texas and California are no where near PA.
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He is obviously interested in Big Blue so these next couple of months should be interesting. OSU is still the leader by a long shot IMO but Michigan now has a horse in the race and it is a pretty good horse.
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Welcome aboard, Cpt. Obvious.
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TP wants to win football games and there are few coaches in the country that have won more games than JT and RRod in the last 3 years. Both coaches are going to mold their offenses around the guy. I think his numbers would probably be better at Michigan because RRod is an offensive genius and frankly, they will need too be better with their defensive questions.
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Regarding "genius", how many national championships has RR won? Then compare that to the offensive playcaller from YSU and OSU.
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12-19-2007, 03:33 PM
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to Hailyes, I say hell no. Troy Smith was an elite 11 QB who because of his rawness and size was mostly recruited as an athlete. He started at tOSU as a special teams player. A perfect example of JT's development of this athlete turned QB was in the spring game where JT put a yellow jersey on Troy and Zwick and forbade them to run. Troy obviously developed into a pass first Heisman Trophy winner. If not for his struggles in the Bowl game and his weight gain on the trophy trail, and probably more importantly his lack height, he would have been a first day pick in the NFL.
As far as what he has done in the pros, he has outplayed a 5th year 1st round draft choice, at least in the eyes of everyone but Brian Billick.
That Krenzel was able to play in the NFL at all despite his less than stellar arm strength and accuracy is a testament to JT and his staff's ablility to prepare QBs.
Either try to make more coherent posts (with a little research) or go home.
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