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Coaching Hockey Fights

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Published October 19, 2005
[ From the Lansing State Journal ]
Schneider: Hockey fighting flares emotions - on both sides

<!--STORY TEXT--> DIMONDALE - Can we all agree that the coach-ordered fistfighting Bob McClean believes he witnessed at The Summit ice arena last week is a bad thing?
We cannot.
Gordon Allington has no objection to it. His 17-year-old son, Chase Allington, plays in the local Capital Centre Pride league. The kid says he fights when the coach says "fight."
The father accepts it as an occupational hazard. Calling Tuesday from Wasilla, Alaska, he said: "They must learn how to protect themselves. It's a way to get the kids to the next level."
Al Harris agrees. He lives in East Lansing and has two sons - 11 and 17 - who play hockey. In an e-mail responding to Tuesday's column, Harris wrote:
"In my opinion, the parents of these high-caliber players brought their kids to this coaching staff in order to prepare them for hockey at the next level."
He added: "Regardless of how it looks, these players were learning to protect themselves and their teammates in a sport that condones physical confrontation."
Fight night
As I wrote Tuesday, McClean, a retired cop who lives in Dimondale, was watching his grandson play at The Summit, in Dimondale, on Oct. 11, when he saw something that filled him with disgust.
He called it "orchestrated brutality."
As McClean described the scenario, a coach at a practice session of teenage hockey players ordered the kids to drop their gloves and helmets, and fight each other, one on one. He said he witnessed four or five fights, which left several kids bloodied.
Debi Haigh of Eagle, at The Summit with her 9-year-old daughter, said she saw the same thing McClean saw.
"I was stunned," Haigh said. "One boy took a heck of a beating. He skated to the side holding his nose and wiping tears."
Based on McClean's account and a preliminary review, Jim Cain, who runs both The Summit and the league, suspended an unnamed coach while he investigates.
"We have reason to believe fighting occurred," Cain said, adding that such conduct violates rules of both the league and USA Hockey, the governing body of amateur hockey in the United States.
Also, George Atkinson of the Michigan Amateur Hockey Association said Tuesday that his group will "get to the bottom" of the incident.
"We certainly do not condone the type of behavior described in your article," Atkinson said.
Speaking theoretically, Eaton County Prosecutor Jeffrey Sauter said a coach who encourages minors to engage in assault could face misdemeanor charges.
Parents feel stymied
Clearly, some parents of players who know about the fighting don't like it, but they feel paralyzed by their sons' hockey ambitions.
I heard from two women who identified themselves as mothers of two of the players on the team in question.
One of the mothers said her son suffered a concussion and three loose teeth in one of the "practice fights." The other mother said her son was forced to fight his best friend.
But neither had filed a complaint, and both were adamant about not being publicly identified.
Why? They offered identical motives: Their sons begged them not to do or say anything that would threaten their standing on the team and their future in hockey.
Their reasoning went like this: The boys struggled through the ranks to become part of an elite team in the Pride league. Being linked to an official complaint would subject a player to being shunned, at best, and possible retaliation.
Said one mother: "If it ever got out that he complained, his days of playing serious hockey would be over."
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:48 AM
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Whatever, I don't have a problem with this unless kids are actually getting hurt or embarassed during this drill. When they say a kid went to the boards hold his nose and crying probably sounds worse than it really is. I've wrestled around with friends and gott popped in the nose plenty of times and I don't care how tough you are your gonna tear up. It's just a natural reaction. These kids need to know how to defend themselves seeing as fighting is a part of the sport. How ever if this is some Cobra Kai [censored], then [censored] em.
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If you want to make it to the bigs, you gotta know how to throw. Sounds like a bunch of pussies to me.
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how many big time players fight.... not many its a role players job to be an "enforcer"
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True, but I bet every big time player gets into a scrap or three per season...
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look at rick nash, one fight in two years. and after the game mcclean said it was great to see nash had become a man, but he never wanted to see him drop his gloves.

if you dont believe me browse hockeyfights.com and search for some of the big names.

forsberg 2 career fights
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Yeah, but Forsberg is a pussy.

Yes, I'm kidding.


My point is, it's a lot more likely that these kids stand a significantly better chance to be the next Jody Shelley, not the next Peter Forsberg.
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