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Old 05-14-2007, 11:23 AM
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Consider it an investment in your eventual inheritance from those snobby rich [censored]ers then.
One day perhaps, but it would never be a top reason to wed
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:27 PM
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Short-term, it's so easy to get work as a nurse that the prestige won't matter. Long-term, if she wants to get into hospital administration or something it might help.
Yep. If she wants to be a floor nurse a diploma program from a local community college is all she needs. If she wants to go on to get her BSN and then pursue something like her MSN, NP or become a Nurse Anesthetist (sp?) then that is different. However, she needs experience before pursuing those advanced degrees.

I still recall what a university president told me years ago: He had students in college working to fund lifestyles, not working to get through and get on with the real world.

You can find articles now how young adults are pushing back their lives because of the amount of debt they bring with them out of college. They push back renting their first place, getting married, buying a house, and so on. It will be interesting to feel the ripple.
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Old 05-14-2007, 11:42 PM
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Hence, institutions fail to control their costs because they are in a desperate competition to attact as many students as possible. Interestingly, the best thing for higher education right now is to have a bunch of institutions fail and go out of business.
Or in the case of Ohio, forcibly merge some of the Fredo schools. Fingerhut, in a recent speech, just hinted strongly that a shotgun marriage might be in the works for Kent State and Akron. A similar merging of BG and UT would also serve to make Ohio's system of public education more rationale given the state's current trends in population growth and financing means.

While I agree that there's too many colleges, both nationally and within Ohio's public higher education system, the over supply doesn't seem to be hurting us. Demand for Ohio State has never been stronger. We had a 30% jump in overall applications last year and a 50% jump from students with 32+ ACT scores.
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:58 AM
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You can find articles now how young adults are pushing back their lives because of the amount of debt they bring with them out of college. They push back renting their first place, getting married, buying a house, and so on. It will be interesting to feel the ripple.
The problem out here at least (The East Coast) is that the cost of tuition along with the cost of purchasing a home are going up at a much faster rate than the rate of an entry level salary...
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Old 05-15-2007, 08:44 AM
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And to get back to your original point, since we're talking about a nursing degree, and we're comparing Maryland, a fast improving state school with national recognition, with Johns Hopkins, how can JH be worth it?

Where, beyond vanity, is the payoff?

How can anyone afford to go to (fill in the name of any BMW school) to become a teacher, nurse, social worker? The education costs exceed any possible renumeration... even, and especially, if the person's goal is to remain in acadameia. I even wonder why such places have programs for those fields. (e.g. Harvard got out of the ed school biz quite some time ago, though they still have a grad program)

Assuming that you intend to stay in the East, given that now is a rare buyer's housing market, why drop 30K on vanity?
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:24 PM
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Remember Jim Rhodes and his constant harping about jobs, jobs, jobs? Watch what happens when state monies dry up. Politicians will cut back on services, close state parks, trim police forces, eliminate programs for seniors, kids, people with disabilities, but they'll make sure the highway and building funds don't get trimmed. That's the holy cow of election funding.
To be fair, the highway budget in Ohio is separate from the general one and is funded from the taxes on gasoline. Therefore, it is not really fair to lump our roads/highways in with the other services.
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Old 05-15-2007, 12:26 PM
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Or in the case of Ohio, forcibly merge some of the Fredo schools. Fingerhut, in a recent speech, just hinted strongly that a shotgun marriage might be in the works for Kent State and Akron. A similar merging of BG and UT would also serve to make Ohio's system of public education more rationale given the state's current trends in population growth and financing means.
I quite agree with this and really hope the merger happens here at Kent and Akron. It is absurd that there are two state institutions only 12 miles apart that duplicate so many different programs.
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