New Radiohead Album - In Rainbows

matz2 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-30-2007, 10:45 PM

I know there are a few fellow Radiohead fans out there, so I thought that I would post the new info. This is from one of the band members (Jonny) on their official website:

Quote:

Hello everyone.

Well, the new album is finished, and it's coming out in 10 days;

We've called it In Rainbows.

Love from us all.
Jonny

Here's the tracklisting:

CD 1 AND VINYL
15 STEP
BODYSNATCHERS
NUDE
WEIRD FISHES/ARPEGGI
ALL I NEED
FAUST ARP
RECKONER
HOUSE OF CARDS
JIGSAW FALLING INTO PLACE
VIDEOTAPE

CD 2 AND VINYL
MK 1
DOWN IS THE NEW UP
GO SLOWLY
MK 2
LAST FLOWERS
UP ON THE LADDER
BANGERS AND MASH
4 MINUTE WARNING

Here's the website where it will be available for download on October 10.

http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/index2.html

BuckeyeTillIDie · #2 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 12:22 AM

10 days?

Holy crap!

Yessss!!

BuckeyeFlorida · #3 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 10:02 AM

Radiohead?s Novel Idea

Filed under: Avril Lavigne

Radiohead are giving away copies of their new album, In Rainbows, out next week.
For reals!
Now that they are no longer signed to a major record label, the band can do as they want. And they are giving their fans the opportunity to pay as much as they want or as little as 90 cents, the credit card processing fee to download the album from their website.
Die-hard fans will likely pay something or actually $80 to be precise. That?s the amount of the new Radiohead box-set, which includes the album on CD, two vinyl records, a CD with additional songs, photos, artwork and lyrics.
Very cool to think outside the box, so to speak.
Kudos to Radiohead!

Saw31 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeFlorida

Radiohead?s Novel Idea

Filed under: Avril Lavigne

Radiohead are giving away copies of their new album, In Rainbows, out next week.
For reals!
Now that they are no longer signed to a major record label, the band can do as they want. And they are giving their fans the opportunity to pay as much as they want or as little as 90 cents, the credit card processing fee to download the album from their website.
Die-hard fans will likely pay something or actually $80 to be precise. That?s the amount of the new Radiohead box-set, which includes the album on CD, two vinyl records, a CD with additional songs, photos, artwork and lyrics.
Very cool to think outside the box, so to speak.
Kudos to Radiohead!

I've been predicting this kind of thing to shake-up the music industry for a long time. I would really like to see more bands take control of their own futures and kick these labels to the curb. The way things have been, they needed the labels because they had a stranglehold on distribution. With today's technology, that stranglehold is going to be hard to maintain, and the consumer is going to be the beneficiary...

BuckeyeTillIDie · #5 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 08:13 PM

Great post, Saw, exactly what I was thinking.

What a move by Radiohead. It will be sure to change the music industry.

I don't even buy CDs anymore. It's vinyl or download.

Saw31 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeTillIDie

What a move by Radiohead. It will be sure to change the music industry.

Well I sure hope so. The labels are the reason we get all this cookie cutter bull[censored]. You'll have one ground breaking band come out, followed by twenty who sound exactly the same. You see the same thing with the movie industry IMO. The labels have stifled creativity for the better part of 30 years. Anyway, I could go on and on about this, but I think you get the point...

matz2 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-01-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saw31

Well I sure hope so. The labels are the reason we get all this cookie cutter bull[censored]. You'll have one ground breaking band come out, followed by twenty who sound exactly the same. You see the same thing with the movie industry IMO. The labels have stifled creativity for the better part of 30 years. Anyway, I could go on and on about this, but I think you get the point...

Agree, but there are alot of good bands out there if you can sift through the massive amounts of [censored]...you just won't hear them on the radio or see them on MTV.

matz2 · #8 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 07:23 AM

Radiohead Album Price Tag: Its Up to You - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog

Radiohead Album Price Tag: ?It?s Up to You?

By Mike Nizza

Tags: business, culture, music
radioheadFill in the blanks on Radiohead?s Web site.

How much would you pay for the next Radiohead album, ?In Rainbow?? This is not a trick question: Your answer will be as binding as a dictator?s edict.

?IT?S UP TO YOU,? the rock band?s site informs customers pre-ordering the digital download, which will be available Oct. 10. Doubters get a second assurance: ?NO REALLY. IT?S UP TO YOU.?

As proof, the order form?s section for price is blank ? and it will accept the lowest possible amount for the site: One British penny (about two American cents). After a perfunctory credit-card charge, Radiohead, one of the most popular and innovative rock bands of the past two decades, will gladly hand over a copy of the whole album for less than a dollar, PC World concluded in an article noting that Apple?s iTunes Music Store was left out of this deal.

There is no maximum price, nor any other guidance, setting up what is may be the biggest experiment in digital-era music-industry pricing to date. What are people willing to pay for music? How many will pay full price? How will the average price compare to what a typical record company would likely have charged? Will people pirate it anyway?
radioheadThom Yorke, Radiohead?s front man, playing at Madison Square Garden in 2006. (Photo: Rahav Segev for The New York Times)

No one knows the answers to these questions yet, but the offer has set industry observers alight with grand expectations. Reactions gathered by a music magazine invoked the words ?revolution? and ?lasting impact.?

Pete Paphides, chief rock critic of The Guardian, estimated the stakes: ?If this experiment works, it will ? at the click of a few million mice ? make them the most powerful band in Britain.?

And Bob Lefsetz, the author of a well-read and curse-addled newsletter on the music industry, celebrated (in so many words) Radiohead?s scheme because it cuts out the middle man ? the music labels that control distribution to music stores ? and connects the band directly with the listener:

This is the industry?s worst nightmare. Superstar band, THE superstar band, forging ahead by its own wits. Proving that others can too. And they will.

This is what happens when you sell twenty dollar CDs with one good track and sue your customers for [file-sharing]. This is what happens when you believe you?re ENTITLED to your business. This is what happens when music is a second-class citizen only interested in the bottom line.

?Well played, gentlemen,? Pitchfork Media, an indie rock Web magazine, concluded after adding up all the angles:

Rather than preface their new album?s release with the usual three months of press ballyhoo, only to have it leak at some random time before it comes out, they?ve kept it completely under wraps, then essentially gone and leaked it themselves. What?s more, they?ve turned this into a moral question of sorts, by giving us the freedom to pay actual money for what amounts to an album leak.

Pitchfork also outlined the two other ways the album will be sold in the future: as a premium boxed set costing $81 and as a standard CD, which would arrive in stores next year.

If you?ve stayed this long before rushing over there to pre-order the album, why not stay a little longer to leave your 2 cents on the 2-cent album. How much would you pay to download Radiohead?s or your favorite band?s next album?

Saw31 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matz2

Radiohead Album Price Tag: Its Up to You - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog

Radiohead Album Price Tag: ?It?s Up to You?

By Mike Nizza

Tags: business, culture, music
radioheadFill in the blanks on Radiohead?s Web site.

How much would you pay for the next Radiohead album, ?In Rainbow?? This is not a trick question: Your answer will be as binding as a dictator?s edict.

?IT?S UP TO YOU,? the rock band?s site informs customers pre-ordering the digital download, which will be available Oct. 10. Doubters get a second assurance: ?NO REALLY. IT?S UP TO YOU.?

As proof, the order form?s section for price is blank ? and it will accept the lowest possible amount for the site: One British penny (about two American cents). After a perfunctory credit-card charge, Radiohead, one of the most popular and innovative rock bands of the past two decades, will gladly hand over a copy of the whole album for less than a dollar, PC World concluded in an article noting that Apple?s iTunes Music Store was left out of this deal.

There is no maximum price, nor any other guidance, setting up what is may be the biggest experiment in digital-era music-industry pricing to date. What are people willing to pay for music? How many will pay full price? How will the average price compare to what a typical record company would likely have charged? Will people pirate it anyway?
radioheadThom Yorke, Radiohead?s front man, playing at Madison Square Garden in 2006. (Photo: Rahav Segev for The New York Times)

No one knows the answers to these questions yet, but the offer has set industry observers alight with grand expectations. Reactions gathered by a music magazine invoked the words ?revolution? and ?lasting impact.?

Pete Paphides, chief rock critic of The Guardian, estimated the stakes: ?If this experiment works, it will ? at the click of a few million mice ? make them the most powerful band in Britain.?

And Bob Lefsetz, the author of a well-read and curse-addled newsletter on the music industry, celebrated (in so many words) Radiohead?s scheme because it cuts out the middle man ? the music labels that control distribution to music stores ? and connects the band directly with the listener:

This is the industry?s worst nightmare. Superstar band, THE superstar band, forging ahead by its own wits. Proving that others can too. And they will.

This is what happens when you sell twenty dollar CDs with one good track and sue your customers for [file-sharing]. This is what happens when you believe you?re ENTITLED to your business. This is what happens when music is a second-class citizen only interested in the bottom line.

?Well played, gentlemen,? Pitchfork Media, an indie rock Web magazine, concluded after adding up all the angles:

Rather than preface their new album?s release with the usual three months of press ballyhoo, only to have it leak at some random time before it comes out, they?ve kept it completely under wraps, then essentially gone and leaked it themselves. What?s more, they?ve turned this into a moral question of sorts, by giving us the freedom to pay actual money for what amounts to an album leak.

Pitchfork also outlined the two other ways the album will be sold in the future: as a premium boxed set costing $81 and as a standard CD, which would arrive in stores next year.

If you?ve stayed this long before rushing over there to pre-order the album, why not stay a little longer to leave your 2 cents on the 2-cent album. How much would you pay to download Radiohead?s or your favorite band?s next album?

Didn't I just say this?

Anyway, another shake-up that will come of this will have to do with the "album" format. As the author alluded to, why the [censored] would anyone want to buy a CD with only one good song? The fact is that the "album format" is partially to blame for all this garbage that we have to weed through. A band may write the greatest song known to humankind, but that's not enough. They have to have those other 10-12 tracks to fill up that album. And they must have them in time for that ever approaching release date. Ever wonder why a band has a great first album and then can't repeat it? They had their whole lives to write the first one. They've only got 18 months for the second. Nothing is worse for creativity than business pressure IMO. You can't force creativity, or at the very least, you can very rarely force creativity. With this new approach, I would love to see bands being able to release songs as they feel they've written a good one, at their own pace, not because a record label holds a contract requiring 12 songs by such-and-such date.

Frankly, I'm surprised it's taken this long. I know some of it has to do with the fact that the labels still hold sway over radio and other music outlets. No music, no radio. For example; "You must add this band (newcomer, most likely garbage) to your rotation in order to get this band (a proven, well liked band)." That's how it works a lot of the time. Why is this? Well, new bands mortgage their futures to these labels. The label fronts the money and wants a return. I know a band that needed to sell 500,000 copies before they made one cent. That's a "Gold" album before they can even afford lunch. Do the math here. A cd may cost 2 cents to produce. Obviously the initial recording and production costs very, but there is no reason on earth you can't produce a quality recording for $250,000 (a typical investment a label may make with a new band). The band must pay that back, or as we always called it, they were a "write-off" band. The label loses money and writes the band off as a business loss. The label is playing a lottery here too. But they know sooner or later they will strike it rich because of the power they hold. But with the technology out there now, and a little talent, you can produce the master recordings for pennies on the dollar compared to that $250,000. Most of that cash would go to a $500 an hour studio where you end up spending days on end doing nothing more than micing amps and drinking coffee. Now, none of this is new. We've heard the stories of labels taking advantage of artists since the recording industry began. What we may see here though, is a complete power shift in how all of this works. I for one, having seen it first hand, can only hope. If there are any aspiring musicians reading this, some advice for ya. Learn the new technology. Build your own studio and learn to produce. The quality of recordings you can make in your own basement will rival any $1,000,000, big name producer if you've got the ear for it. It's still going to be tough to "get the word out", but at least you haven't sold yourself, your name and any future product to the labels...

matz2 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-02-2007, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saw31

Didn't I just say this?

Anyway, another shake-up that will come of this will have to do with the "album" format. As the author alluded to, why the [censored] would anyone want to buy a CD with only one good song? The fact is that the "album format" is partially to blame for all this garbage that we have to weed through. A band may write the greatest song known to humankind, but that's not enough. They have to have those other 10-12 tracks to fill up that album. And they must have them in time for that ever approaching release date. Ever wonder why a band has a great first album and then can't repeat it? They had their whole lives to write the first one. They've only got 18 months for the second. Nothing is worse for creativity than business pressure IMO. You can't force creativity, or at the very least, you can very rarely force creativity. With this new approach, I would love to see bands being able to release songs as they feel they've written a good one, at their own pace, not because a record label holds a contract requiring 12 songs by such-and-such date.

Frankly, I'm surprised it's taken this long. I know some of it has to do with the fact that the labels still hold sway over radio and other music outlets. No music, no radio. For example; "You must add this band (newcomer, most likely garbage) to your rotation in order to get this band (a proven, well liked band)." That's how it works a lot of the time. Why is this? Well, new bands mortgage their futures to these labels. The label fronts the money and wants a return. I know a band that needed to sell 500,000 copies before they made one cent. That's a "Gold" album before they can even afford lunch. Do the math here. A cd may cost 2 cents to produce. Obviously the initial recording and production costs very, but there is no reason on earth you can't produce a quality recording for $250,000 (a typical investment a label may make with a new band). The band must pay that back, or as we always called it, they were a "write-off" band. The label loses money and writes the band off as a business loss. The label is playing a lottery here too. But they know sooner or later they will strike it rich because of the power they hold. But with the technology out there now, and a little talent, you can produce the master recordings for pennies on the dollar compared to that $250,000. Most of that cash would go to a $500 an hour studio where you end up spending days on end doing nothing more than micing amps and drinking coffee. Now, none of this is new. We've heard the stories of labels taking advantage of artists since the recording industry began. What we may see here though, is a complete power shift in how all of this works. I for one, having seen it first hand, can only hope. If there are any aspiring musicians reading this, some advice for ya. Learn the new technology. Build your own studio and learn to produce. The quality of recordings you can make in your own basement will rival any $1,000,000, big name producer if you've got the ear for it. It's still going to be tough to "get the word out", but at least you haven't sold yourself, your name and any future product to the labels...

Nothing to add, just want to say nice post!

matz2 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-09-2007, 09:37 PM

Just wanted to remind those who are interested that this will be available to download tomorrow. Unfortunately, it will only be released at 160 kbps.

jlb1705 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-09-2007, 10:59 PM

I read about this on Pitchfork the other day and also about Trent Reznor announcing NIN's "free agency". You can bet that if Radiohead is successful, NIN will be the next in line to do something along these lines.

I want to add that I know that the distribution of music is trending away from the album format, but as a fan I hope that it persists one way or another. I realize that many bands just aren't consistently good enough to put together an entire album of decent music, but I enjoy the experience of listening to a good album from start to finish. I've pretty much stopped buying CDs at this point and am not really into vinyl (yet) but I do collect most of my mp3s as full albums.