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Dave Pelz and the other teaching gurus are talking up carrying four wedges. Wade sounds like a good sticker (from the length of his wedges), but the key is to take the clubs to the range and find out how far you hit each of them. That way you know which one to hit when. I carry four wedges, gap, pitching, one sand wedge with a flat flange (for fairway) and one with more 'round' (bounce) for traps. Depending on lie and sand consistency, will use other wedge.

New rules take effect in January 2010, and square grooves are outlawed. Will take a few years to trickle down to the non-pros, so take that for what it's worth. By the way, I seem to hit all sorts of great shots off the mats at Dunn's, etc. but when get to the course, dig into the ground, hit thin, or bounce into the ball. Might be advised to hit a demo at the club/range where you go, just to 'see' what works for you. Dunn's out here (Central Valley California) has a 90 day guarantee, so if you buy it, and don't like it, you get full trade-in on a different purchase.

Good luck and welcome to the golfing world. The bug will bite hard sooner or later. My ex-wife said that if there was a fire in the house, I'd grap my sticks before I'd grab her - and she's probably right.

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how many clubs are in your bag w/o a lob wedge? if you only have 13, go ahead and add an L wedge. it can't hurt. if you have 14, i would much rather see someone drop a 7 wood (or a 2 iron or some hybrid) to get an L wedge. you will get much more use out of an L wedge than you would a 7 wood. if you do get an L wedge though, be prepared to practice a lot before you get used to it. the agressive swing needed just to hit the ball 20 yards can be tough to get used to at first.
I'm not planning on carrying many woods. Maybe just driver, 3, hybrid. My longer irons are travelling for me, and the hybrid (which I had never tried before) seems like it will too, so I can't see needing anymore woods (not like I can hit them anyway). The iron set is 4-9 and 2 wedges. Putter. That's room for 2 more clubs, so I was thinking at least one more wedge, if not 2.

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Dave Pelz and the other teaching gurus are talking up carrying four wedges. Wade sounds like a good sticker (from the length of his wedges), but the key is to take the clubs to the range and find out how far you hit each of them. That way you know which one to hit when. I carry four wedges, gap, pitching, one sand wedge with a flat flange (for fairway) and one with more 'round' (bounce) for traps. Depending on lie and sand consistency, will use other wedge.

New rules take effect in January 2010, and square grooves are outlawed. Will take a few years to trickle down to the non-pros, so take that for what it's worth. By the way, I seem to hit all sorts of great shots off the mats at Dunn's, etc. but when get to the course, dig into the ground, hit thin, or bounce into the ball. Might be advised to hit a demo at the club/range where you go, just to 'see' what works for you. Dunn's out here (Central Valley California) has a 90 day guarantee, so if you buy it, and don't like it, you get full trade-in on a different purchase.

Good luck and welcome to the golfing world. The bug will bite hard sooner or later. My ex-wife said that if there was a fire in the house, I'd grap my sticks before I'd grab her - and she's probably right.

Sounds like 1 if not 2 more wedges really is the answer. Dunn's here has the same policy, so I am thinking about trying 2 of those Cleveland wedges at different angles. The bug hit me just last weekend, and it bit again last night when I was testing out new clubs. I think this could be really fun (and frustating/embarassing as all hell )

Thanks again, 14 and Cali for your input... looks like "Phil" gets some more commission.
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I carry 4 wedges. PW--48*, AW--51*, SW--56* and LW--60*. I only have carry one wood, a driver. I do have a hyrid that I use as a 2-iron.
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what do you use on the back nine?
Well normally on the front I hit one into the driving range to make sure I have an extra dozen for the back..
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My set has:

  • 1W 3W 5W
  • Hybrid 3I 4I
  • 5I-9I
  • PW
  • Putter
Right off the bat I can add two more clubs, and I know I definitely need to add some wedges. How should I prioritize them? Can't add them all at once.

Also, on the subject of hybrids... So far I can't hit them for [censored]. I hit my 5I better than either of my hybrids. Everybody says I'll grow to love them, but does anybody out there prefer a regular 3I or 4I if you need to hit something a little bit longer or lower than what a 5I will do for you?
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Jib, if you're under a tree (and can take a swing), I pull out driver and hit it off the deck, keeps it low. If your hybrids are 20 & 23 (plus or minus 1 degree for mfgers differences), then you've got enough club to 'go long'. The hybrids are easier to hit than the long irons, more forgiving, get up in the air better, and are heavier to get through the 'stuff' outside of the fairways.

Even if you do not hit greens in regulation, then your short game is key to 'get up and down', and will have the most impact on score. Everyone has a 'go-to' wedge, but a bit more variety should pay you dividends. I've got a barrel full of putters and drivers, but if you can get it inside 10' with your approach, recovery shot, then you can make enough with a baseball bat (or foot wedge) to break 90. The key is using the same swing, and letting the added elevation push it high and stop it quickly.

Dave Pelz's Short Game book is top shelf, and the Putting book isn't bad either, but a bit windy for my taste. I do pull out the short game occasionally and review, for things like weight distribution on different shots, amount of backswing, etc. during different types of shots.

Enjoy, golf is an easy game to learn, but very difficult to master. Only 5% of golfers can break 100 (that's what I've heard/read), or 90, but set yourself goals (one good shot for two bad ones), and practice. Spend more time on the short irons (your scoring clubs) than the driver. Everyone loves to bomb 'em out there, but you only hit the 'big dog' 14 times a round, versus the scoring clubs. You do the math......short game......

Hit 'em long, far, and not too often!

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So... went back to Dunn's with a bunch of suggestions in my head, and then basically took whatever the dude suggested because the clubs felt great, and it seemed like they were a fair price. Landed on a ton of TaylorMade stuff - who knows, maybe the guy needed to move some inventory, maybe he just loves TMs... but...

Irons: TaylorMade Tour Burners:



Driver / 3: Same (though I think my driver is a 10)


One (1) hybrid club - a Cleveland:



Also a 60 degree TaylorMade wedge... might trade this one in after testing it out though because even with my untrained hands I can feel alot of vibration. That being said, it was $49.99...


And this weird-looking Odyssey putter... the dude said the dots would help...



Thanks again for all the suggestions.

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Odyssey makes great putters...I've had my Rossie II for years that I won in the Junior Club Championship.

From what I've heard TM Burners are pretty good beginners clubs. Enjoy it!!!
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TaylorMade makes good stuff. My drive and irons are TM. You will be very happy. Lots of people swear by the 2-ball odyssey putters, I have one but dont always put in the bag. The setup with the 2-balls make it easier to line up putts. I just dont always prefer the look.
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that's a good set there 'bus. i prefer cleveland wedges, but they were so popular and dominant in the marketplace that everyone else has copied them. cleveland, titleist, ping, calaway and TM all have wedges that are pretty much the same now.
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Driver-lob wedge, on most holes.

Seriously, I have Ping Zing2 irons 5-SW, Nike SUMO 9000 driver with Proforce V2 stiff shaft (sweet!), TaylorMade 580 3-wood, Srixon A2 hybrids 18 and 21 degree, and two additional Ping wedges: 56 and 60 degree, i-Wedges. Nike OZ #6 putter:



Thought my age would move me to a reg-flex shaft on the driver, but hit some rentals with reg-shaft (Taylor Burner Pro and Titleist D2) and found out otherwise; I just can't control the R-flex.

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I've got 13 clubs, with a MUCH needed LOB wedge. That and I have no need for a 3 Iron, when I can hit my 5wood and 4 Iron better. Then I'd just be back at 13 clubs and I'm not too sure what I'd add...
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I've got 13 clubs, with a MUCH needed LOB wedge. That and I have no need for a 3 Iron, when I can hit my 5wood and 4 Iron better. Then I'd just be back at 13 clubs and I'm not too sure what I'd add...

A Chutter?
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I've got 13 clubs, with a MUCH needed LOB wedge. That and I have no need for a 3 Iron, when I can hit my 5wood and 4 Iron better. Then I'd just be back at 13 clubs and I'm not too sure what I'd add...
If you carry a 3 wood, then you more than likely have a gap somewhere in there. Either at sand wedge lofts or gap wedge lofts. Probably a gap wedge (hence the name). Most PW's are between 45 and 47 degree loft, and then sand wedges are 54 or 56. That will be your largest gap, so I would recommend a gap wedge.

Anyway, here is my set (15 clubs, drop either the lob wedge or the 5 wood depending on the course)....

Taylor Made R7 Limited
Taylor Made Burner 3 and 5 wood
Ping G10 3 hybrid
Ping i10 irons 4-PW
Ping Tour W gap wedge (51 degree loft)
Cleveland CG12 DSG (dynamic sole grind) sand wedge (56 degree loft)
Cleveland 588 lob wedge (60 degree)
TM Rossa KiaMa Daytona putter (I also have an Odyssey Sabertooth if I feel like switching to a mallet putter for whatever reason)

For anyone struggling with how many wedges to carry I do recommend the CG12 DSG. The dynamic sole grind allows for variation in bounce (for what bounce is see below). It can act as both high and low bounce. That way I can drop my lob wedge if needed and still have a wedge I can play in different conditions (usually if you have 1 set of clubs you want to have different bounces between your sand and lob wedge...of course you can also have multiple wedge sets and pick the right bounce before you play a certain course). Keep the face closed and it acts like a sand wedge with regular bounce on full shots. Open the face and it acts like a low bounce lob wedge. I still like to carry a lob wedge on short courses, but the DSG sand wedge allows for be to drop the lob wedge for a 5 wood on long courses.

Anyway, here are a couple of good bounce descriptions (talked about earlier on this page but I don't think the word bounce was used)...

Understanding Bounce | The Sand Trap
Wedge Bounce and Grind: What it is and Why it Matters | The Sand Trap
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