Ft Hood Tragedy

[Bucklion]

And here:

Army: 12 dead, 31 wounded at Fort Hood - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

Apparently of the 3 shooters, 1 is dead and the other 2 are in custody.

[Bucky Katt]

Good god. What is wrong with people?

[CookyPuss]

Originally Posted by Bucklion

And here:

Army: 12 dead, 31 wounded at Fort Hood - Crime & courts- msnbc.com

Apparently of the 3 shooters, 1 is dead and the other 2 are in custody.

The 2 in custody were released, so it appears this was a lone actor. 13 now dead. What a shame. The shooter was a Army psychiatrist (treating soldiers for PTSD) who was about to be deployed and not so happy about it. His middle eastern name certainly contributes to the many questions that will be asked of this incident. Terrible, terrible news.

[MililaniBuckeye]

A single shooter with two hand guns shoots at least 43 different people before being shot himself? Something doesn't sound right...

[CookyPuss]

Press conference going on now, reporting that the shooter appears to have acted alone and is not dead but was shot several times and now is in stable condition.

[CookyPuss]

Originally Posted by MililaniBuckeye

A single shooter with two hand guns shoots at least 43 different people before being shot himself? Something doesn't sound right...

The general giving the press conference didn't have much of an answer to this other than to say that one of the weapons was a semi-auto.

[Basebuck]

Lots and lots of rumors down here. A friend of mine works in the wounded warriors unit and is making a ton of house calls tonight. He is concerned that the fallout from this will increase PTSD symptoms.

[Jake]

Originally Posted by CookyPuss

The shooter was a Army psychiatrist (treating soldiers for PTSD) who was about to be deployed and not so happy about it. His middle eastern name certainly contributes to the many questions that will be asked of this incident.

It may go beyond his "middle eastern name" as a post talking about soldiers who throw themselves on grenades to save their troops, taken from his blog, suggests:

"To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause," said the Internet posting. "Scholars have paralled (sic) this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers."

Seems like an interesting parallel, since according to his cousin he's a Muslim. We may never really know his true motivation for this terrible act but the circumstantial evidence is, at least, an unfortunate coincidence.

Bottom line, 30+ people lost their lives and their families will have to deal with it the rest of their lives, while the shooter's family tries to make sense of it all. Just a sad story all around.

Suspected Gunman in Custody After Deadly Shooting Rampage at Fort Hood - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

[jlb1705]

I'm glad they captured this [censored] alive. It always [censored]es me off when guys like this get in one last act of cowardice and off themselves.

I hope everybody who wants a piece of this scumbag gets a crack at him.

[NFBuck]

Originally Posted by jlb1705

I'm glad they captured this [censored] alive. It always [censored]es me off when guys like this get in one last act of cowardice and off themselves.

I hope everybody who wants a piece of this scumbag gets a crack at him.

+1

[scooter1369]

Originally Posted by jlb1705

I'm glad they captured this [censored] alive. It always [censored]es me off when guys like this get in one last act of cowardice and off themselves.

I hope everybody who wants a piece of this scumbag gets a crack at him.

+eleventy brazillion

[jimotis4heisman]

will he likely be tried in texas or by the mil? in texas you can pretty much already assume the death penalty, no?

[cincibuck]

Originally Posted by Bucky Katt

Good god. What is wrong with people?

Losing it is not uncommon close to deployment. I was on the firing line at Ft. Lewis in 1968, doing a pre-deployment familiarization firing of the M-16, when an 18 year old lost it and put a round through his head before the safety folks could get to him.

As for what is wrong, this is a very small force, never intended as a force to fight an extended war. The 1990s planning for this force was based on the assumption ala 1935, that a small, well trained army, would turn around and train a huge draft expanded army. Political/public refusal to embrace the draft means we have to keep sending the same kids on multiple tours. It is tearing the Army and Marine Corps apart. The losses, through resignation, in NCOs and company grade officers have been staggering and these folks are the backbone of the force.

[Steve19]

A guy in my basic training unit offed himself with a grenade the first day we trained with them. We weren't deployed before and I don't think that the shooter had been deployed before.

This guy was a psychiatrist who assisted traumatized soldiers who came back. Perhaps the horror of what he heard that soldiers had to do or did on their own was just too much for him. The video footage of him in Arab garb in a convenience store, just prior to the incident, raised all kinds of questions about a US-born psychiatrist of Arab descent.

My condolences the families of those killed so senselessly.

[kippy1040]

Originally Posted by Steve19

A guy in my basic training unit offed himself with a grenade the first day we trained with them. We weren't deployed before and I don't think that the shooter had been deployed before.

This guy was a psychiatrist who assisted traumatized soldiers who came back. Perhaps the horror of what he heard that soldiers had to do or did on their own was just too much for him. The video footage of him in Arab garb in a convenience store, just prior to the incident, raised all kinds of questions about a US-born psychiatrist of Arab descent.

My condolences the families of those killed so senselessly.

This is all beginning to bother me in a very disturbing way. I am retired and enjoying the good life. I served my country to defend us from the enemy forces. I am proud of that and i thank all of my fellow servicemen for doing the same. When sirhan-sirhan gunned down RFK in 1968, i awoke and said to my wife, "My God what is this country of ours coming to".

The tables of time are ever turning in history and some say that History will repeat itself. I don't know about that. Maybe there is some good logic to it, but where is this Country of ours headed? Many fear that we will be taken over by an Islamic power in future years. I kind of wonder about that and my son is scoffing at that notion and tells me not to worry. But now this has me worried. I really enjoy the Buckeye Planet for all the good wisdom and common logic that i read out there from all of you. But should i worry here? Yes i am an old fart but i still enjoy the good life and i want to continue to its fullest. Such acts of Tragedy like this has to stop soon.