Official Detroit Red Wings Thread

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by Bucky Katt

Blow it off Nick and Pavs. Don't let the man keep you down!

If you have to miss the game after, so be it. Do it on principle.

[BuckeyeMike80]

[censored] Gary Bettman. No really. [censored] him.

Hell I don't care. Suspend the entire team one game. It won't matter much in the end.

[Bucky Katt]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

[censored] Gary Bettman. No really. [censored] him.

Hell I don't care. Suspend the entire team one game. It won't matter much in the end.

Hells yes! Free 2 points for the CBJ!

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by Bucky Katt

Hells yes! Free 2 points for the CBJ!

actually I wouldn't mind that at all.

As for the President's Trophy - I don't care either. Detroit won all of their playoff series last year on road ice anyway

[BuckeyeMike80]

Update:

Lidstrom and Datsyuk are both injured and have been injured for a while now.

Lidstrom has a small ligament tear in his elbow.

Datsyuk has a sprained knee and may require surgery after the season.

Cindy Crysby has a boo boo.

Two got suspended, the other got an exception.

[censored] the NHL.

[BuckeyeMike80]

this makes it even worse....

Lidstrom and Datsyuk were both probably going to be able to play against the CBJ on Tuesday, but Franzen and Stuart were and are likely out.

This cluster[censored] of a screwjob to Detroit has left Datsyuk and Lidstrom suspended WITH pay, meaning that money won't come off the cap. So if Detroit signs anyone or brings anyone up from Grand Rapids for the game, that cap space is GONE.

So Detroit is going to be even more shorthanded, not just skill-wise in losing 2 of their 3 best players, but also manpower-wise, because I don't see them recalling anyone ATTM.

Now it's likely that Franzen is going to the IR, but there are quite a few members of one of the largest hockey fanbases in the nation really [censored]ed off right now.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Update:

Lidstrom and Datsyuk are both injured and have been injured for a while now.

Lidstrom has a small ligament tear in his elbow.

Datsyuk has a sprained knee and may require surgery after the season.

Cindy Crysby has a boo boo.

Two got suspended, the other got an exception.

[censored] the NHL.

crosby went. the wings didnt. you dont have to play, just go and take some pictures. not all that unreasonable.

granted not much talk of zetterberg or rafalski turning down being alternates either...

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

this makes it even worse....

Lidstrom and Datsyuk were both probably going to be able to play against the CBJ on Tuesday, but Franzen and Stuart were and are likely out.

This cluster[censored] of a screwjob to Detroit has left Datsyuk and Lidstrom suspended WITH pay, meaning that money won't come off the cap. So if Detroit signs anyone or brings anyone up from Grand Rapids for the game, that cap space is GONE.

So Detroit is going to be even more shorthanded, not just skill-wise in losing 2 of their 3 best players, but also manpower-wise, because I don't see them recalling anyone ATTM.

Now it's likely that Franzen is going to the IR, but there are quite a few members of one of the largest hockey fanbases in the nation really [censored]ed off right now.

cap hits are pro rated based on days on the nhl roster. aka from recall to sent back to the minors. so 1/180ish (i dont know how many days the wings officially had this year).

managing the cap is something you have to do now. its part of the game. i think it should only get more interesting the next few years with a cap that is going to hold flat/lower as it seems now.

[OH10]

I'm confused. If Lidstrom and Datsyuk are too hurt to play in the All-Star game, then what do they care about being suspended with pay for one game?

Unless, of course, they're not really injured. In which case, good call Bettman.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by OH10

I'm confused. If Lidstrom and Datsyuk are too hurt to play in the All-Star game, then what do they care about being suspended with pay for one game?

Unless, of course, they're not really injured. In which case, good call Bettman.

well thats kind of wrong. they were to hurt to attend. sidney crosby did not play (for the second year in a row) but attended. he had his picture taken, signed autographs, etc. he did not do the skills comp or play in the game. thus he does not face disciplinary actions. so if lidstrom or datsyuk had gone and not so much as put on their skates they wouldnt have been suspended.

[Kueller]

Originally Posted by OH10

I'm confused. If Lidstrom and Datsyuk are too hurt to play in the All-Star game, then what do they care about being suspended with pay for one game?

Unless, of course, they're not really injured. In which case, good call Bettman.

There are degrees of injury. Having a cold wouldn't stop you from showing up at work, but you might skip the company picnic.

It's an exhibition game, nothing more. Why don't people get this upset when NFL stars don't play in every preseason exhibition game?

[OH10]

Originally Posted by Kueller

There are degrees of injury. Having a cold wouldn't stop you from showing up at work, but you might skip the company picnic.

It's an exhibition game, nothing more. Why don't people get this upset when NFL stars don't play in every preseason exhibition game?

No other league needs to showcase its best more than the NHL. Like JO said above, at least Crosby showed up for the festivities.

I'm just saying that I don't necessarily buy their complaints that they couldn't play because of injury. There haven't been any penalities in an All Star game since 2000, so its not as if its the most grueling physical competition for which they'd be participating. If they can play this Tuesday, they could have at least shown up in Montreal.

[Bucky Katt]

Originally Posted by Bucky Katt

Blow it off Nick and Pavs. Don't let the man keep you down!

If you have to miss the game after, so be it. Do it on principle.

Well done, fellas!


Now have the whole team sit out tomorrow night in protest of this horrible injustice.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by OH10

No other league needs to showcase its best more than the NHL. Like JO said above, at least Crosby showed up for the festivities.

I'm just saying that I don't necessarily buy their complaints that they couldn't play because of injury. There haven't been any penalities in an All Star game since 2000, so its not as if its the most grueling physical competition for which they'd be participating. If they can play this Tuesday, they could have at least shown up in Montreal.

actually last night they had a penalty, in ot...

they didnt have to play, just show up. not to much to ask. the league, the players and the org knew what was at stake. the league sent out a friendly reminder, whether the players/organ-i-zation responded well thats how it goes.

[Brutus1]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Update:

Lidstrom and Datsyuk are both injured and have been injured for a while now.

Lidstrom has a small ligament tear in his elbow.

Datsyuk has a sprained knee and may require surgery after the season.

Cindy Crysby has a boo boo.

Two got suspended, the other got an exception.

[censored] the NHL.

How about slappin' in a tampon next time. All they had to do was sit out the Phoenix game and they could have had a long rest. As is was, all they had to do was show up, and still get to rest their aches. They chose to miss the next game. It's really not a big deal.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by Brutus1

How about slappin' in a tampon next time.

Dude don't disparage Cindy Crysby that way....

All they had to do was sit out the Phoenix game and they could have had a long rest. As is was, all they had to do was show up, and still get to rest their aches. They chose to miss the next game. It's really not a big deal.

Datsyuk got injured DURING the Phoenix game. Shane Doan even publicly said so when the suspensions were announced. Lidstrom has been hurt all year long.

Only the NHL would this big a deal over a stupid ass exhibition game virtually no one watches, but that's the NHL for you. Better yet, they are letting Lidstrom be dragged through the mud when he's only one of their best ambassadors of the game and best people in the game.

I'll laugh my ass off if Detroit still wins on Tuesday.