Official Detroit Red Wings Thread

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by jimotis4heisman

not a friend of a one way forward? (the joke is their is no d in jason williams)

well when the franchise lets you go for Kyle Calder, usually that means you suck.

Besides they let him go when he was making significantly less than the reported 2.5 million he's going to make this year.

[jimotis4heisman]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

well when the franchise lets you go for Kyle Calder, usually that means you suck.

Besides they let him go when he was making significantly less than the reported 2.5 million he's going to make this year.

his last two deals were what?
2 year 3.2m (1.6m cap hit)
and his 1 year 2.2m

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by jimotis4heisman

his last two deals were what?
2 year 3.2m (1.6m cap hit)
and his 1 year 2.2m

Essentially the Wings are signing him for what they could have gotten SAmmy back for and at least Sammy tries to play D (he fails, but he tries)....

[3074326]

Hudler is still going to play with Dynamo for two years, but signed a 2 year deal with Detroit before his arbitration. The deal was worth a total of $5.75 mill. He'll have to honor that contract when he returns from the KHL.

Wings' Jiri Hudler gets $5.75M in arbitration, but still going to Russia | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

[jimotis4heisman]

which makes for an interesting predicament and precedent. their are certainly cases were rights have been retained but this is one of the few that i can think of that essentially two contracts have been nearly simultaneously signed...

[3074326]

Question

Hudler could stay in Russia as long as he wanted, then return to the NHL at the end of his career and Detroit would have to live up that contract, right?

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by 3074326

Hudler is still going to play with Dynamo for two years, but signed a 2 year deal with Detroit before his arbitration. The deal was worth a total of $5.75 mill. He'll have to honor that contract when he returns from the KHL.

Wings' Jiri Hudler gets $5.75M in arbitration, but still going to Russia | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

Originally Posted by jimotis4heisman

which makes for an interesting predicament and precedent. their are certainly cases were rights have been retained but this is one of the few that i can think of that essentially two contracts have been nearly simultaneously signed...

Originally Posted by 3074326

Question

Hudler could stay in Russia as long as he wanted, then return to the NHL at the end of his career and Detroit would have to live up that contract, right?

Not necessarily. The arbitration awarded Hudler's rights to the Wings which it appears they agreed too. Hudler is going to the KHL where he's going to grow a foot, learn to play defense and be physical on the boards and come back at a discount rate

Nah essentially he'll be trade bait whenever he comes back from the land of offensive milk and honey in the KHL. The Wings could keep him, but they'll likely trade him and someone will overpay for him too.

[3074326]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

Nah essentially he'll be trade bait whenever he comes back from the land of offensive milk and honey in the KHL. The Wings could keep him, but they'll likely trade him and someone will overpay for him too.

Yeah, but I'm going on a hypothetical situation if he didn't come back in two years. Say he basically finished his career in the KHL, then wanted to come back the NHL. He'd have no value, but the Wings would still have this contract with him for a couple years. They'd have to honor it, or buy him out, right?

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by 3074326

Yeah, but I'm going on a hypothetical situation if he didn't come back in two years. Say he basically finished his career in the KHL, then wanted to come back the NHL. He'd have no value, but the Wings would still have this contract with him for a couple years. They'd have to honor it, or buy him out, right?

I'm pretty sure the next CBA will cover this situation is more detail, but if the Wings wanted him to play, they'd have to honor it. I don't think they'd buy him out I think they would instead try to trade him for just about anything including a bag of used pucks.

[jimotis4heisman]

i think its like this
he was awarded a two year arby
signed two year deal with the khl
if he does come back he will have to play under his two year arby contract
the wings can trade his rights at any time (contract will go along with the rights)
if he ever comes back to the nhl it has to be on that contract (for two years) then hes free (after those two years) to sign another deal.


im confused as to the "sort of" language used by holland. this is odd, im really surprised the nhl didnt smash this, or maybe binding him is better, i dont know...

[jimotis4heisman]

Twitter / NHL: #redwings sign patrick eaves
wings sign eaves to a one year deal

[jimotis4heisman]

Red Wings, Bertuzzi agree on 1-year contract
one year 1.5m
last year 66/15/29/54 -13


this puts the wing significantly over the cap even with some funny finagling... (about 6.5m over straight up, they likely can use gr and a few tricks but still)

[dragurd]

Wow I didn't think they would bring back Bertuzzi.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Fragile-zen strikes again...

Red Wings' Franzen out with torn ACL


Detroit Red Wings forward Johan Franzen has suffered a torn ACL and will be out for at least four months, the team announced Friday.

Franzen was injured in Thursday night's 3-2 victory over the Chicago Blackhawks, a game in which Franzen scored the game-winning goal during the second period.

"It's a huge impact because he's a huge player for us," Red Wings coach Mike Babcock told ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun on Friday. "But like I always say when things don't look good, we just have to find a way. Somebody will get an opportunity now."

It wasn't clear from the Wings' announcement at what point in the game Franzen was hurt.

Well at least now Fredrik Modin has some company on the shelf for at least 4 months. I look at it this way, since the Wings still don't [censored]ing play any defense the Wings were looking at a 4-6 seed. This might put them down in the 7 range where they'll end up facing either Calgary or San Jose in the first round. Might be a good thing to have a fresh Fragile-zen back for then.

That said, this will free up significant cap space since he'll be on IR, so the Wings can make a move now.

Detroit Red Wings forward Johan Franzen out 4 months with torn ACL - ESPN

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