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correct. not fixing games.

one of the big issues was super bowl betting.

Thanks. I enjoy betting on sports so its no big deal to me but as far as the Habs situation goes, OC members do not hang around pro athletes to get their autographs. That is something the NHL should be very concerned about imo.
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Rick Tocchet, an assistant coach with Phoenix at the time, was running a gambling ring a couple years ago, but as I recall, it was never linked to the fixing of hockey games.
current lighting coach.

heres some info on the guy
Rick Tocchet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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On February 6, 2006, Tocchet was served with a criminal complaint, accused of financing a nationwide sports gambling ring based in New Jersey in which several current NHL players wagered [4]. He was expected to travel from his Arizona home to answer charges of promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy in New Jersey. [5] "It's not a hockey-related issue, it's a football thing. And at this time I can't comment any further," Tocchet told The Arizona Republic after the Coyotes practiced Tuesday, February 7, 2006. [6]
On May 8, 2006, attorneys for Tocchet and Gretzky's wife Janet Jones filed notices in New Jersey that they intend to sue the state for $50 million each for defamation. Both Tocchet and Jones claim each have lost business opportunities in the wake of the state's investigation which have sullied their reputations. [7]
On August 3, 2006, former New Jersey state trooper James Harney pleaded guilty to conspiracy, promoting gambling and official misconduct, and promised to help authorities with their case against Tocchet and others. Harney said that he and Tocchet were 50?50 partners in the betting ring. [8]
On December 1, 2006, James Ulmer of Swedesboro, New Jersey pleaded guilty to conspiracy and promoting gambling and agreed to cooperate with authorities. [9]
On May 25, 2007, Tocchet plead guilty to conspiracy and promoting gambling. New Jersey Attorney General Anne Milgram announced on August 17 that Tocchet has been sentenced to two years probation in exchange for his plea. The NHL issued a statement from Gary Bettman, but his spokesman would not answer questions, including if Tocchet has a future in hockey. [10]
During the week of July 8, 2007, Tocchet played in the World Series of Poker in Las Vegas. He survived the first day, but never returned for Day 2.
During a press conference on February 6, 2008, it was announced that Tocchet would be reinstated, and would serve as assistant coach starting on February 7, 2008, exactly two years after taking a leave of absence.[11]
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Thanks. I enjoy betting on sports so its no big deal to me but as far as the Habs situation goes, OC members do not hang around pro athletes to get their autographs. That is something the NHL should be very concerned about imo.
youre talking about russians in montreal. im not sure how to say this and be PC....

think don cherrys views on russians. thats widely viewed. you have russians in quebec. of course they intermingle. i cant come up with a good columbus equiv. likely this is similar to obamas "hes a guy in my neighborhood" type of stuff (rezko, blago, ayres, etc). im sure their is a connection but their is something there. how much well likely never know.
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youre talking about russians in montreal. im not sure how to say this and be PC....

think don cherrys views on russians. thats widely viewed. you have russians in quebec. of course they intermingle. i cant come up with a good columbus equiv. likely this is similar to obamas "hes a guy in my neighborhood" type of stuff (rezko, blago, ayres, etc). im sure their is a connection but their is something there. how much well likely never know.

I have no earthly idea as to Don Cherrys views on Russians but I get what you are saying.

Personally I wouldn't ever trust one of the commie bastards any farther than I can throw them but like you say, we have to try and be PC.
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I have no earthly idea as to Don Cherrys views on Russians but I get what you are saying.

Personally I wouldn't ever trust one of the commie bastards any farther than I can throw them but like you say, we have to try and be PC.
he hates: no touch icing, anyone who wears a visor and euros. not in that order...

ill skip the canadian view of russians.

but-i guess the best comparison would likely be an nba player, say like a sebastain telfair, associated with a ny gangster. id look at you and say "duh..."
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he hates: no touch icing, anyone who wears a visor and euros. not in that order...

ill skip the canadian view of russians.

but-i guess the best comparison would likely be an nba player, say like a sebastain telfair, associated with a ny gangster. id look at you and say "duh..."

OK, I Googled Don Cherry. I get it now.

He is absolutely classic.
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so it appears they have some sort of relationship with pasquale mongiola who faces dug trafficking and illegal weapons charges (its canada that could mean he owns a gun...). they partied together and he bought the drinks and helped them get women. roman hamrlik also is associated with this.

does anyone remember the theodore and canadian biker gangs stories?
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I believe there have been big problems with the russian mafia harassing NHL players for the last several years. I haven't heard of any cases where the players were involved willingly. It's basically the mafia shaking them down for "protection money", and it's particularly bad if the player has family back home. Russian mobsters are ruthless [censored]s, there's really nothing the players can do except go along with it.
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Canadiens fire Carbonneau, Gainey takes over as coach
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The Montreal Canadiens fired head coach Guy Carbonneau on Monday and replaced him behind the bench with general manager Bob Gainey. Carbonneau, a finalist for the Jack Adams Award last year, was let go after nearly three seasons as Montreal's head coach.
Gainey first appearance behind the bench will be on Tuesday night when the Canadiens host the Edmonton Oilers.

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he hates: no touch icing, anyone who wears a visor and euros. not in that order...

ill skip the canadian view of russians.

but-i guess the best comparison would likely be an nba player, say like a sebastain telfair, associated with a ny gangster. id look at you and say "duh..."
I watched an old Don Cherry show the other day, when has guests in a room like a bar and he's behind the counter and the guests are on this side. Anyway, the guests were Doug Gilmore and Al McInnis and it was right before the Russians were to start playing in the NHL and you could tell then that Cherry hatet them. Gilmore gave the pc answer about seeing how they adapt to the game. It was a very interesting show.

I think his [censored] list in order may be:
Russians
Euros
Visor wearing players
French Canadians
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habs hire j martin as hc.
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[MoC] Them Russians ain't got [censored] on the Isreali's you know what I'm sayin' [MoC]

At least Mo didn't get caught slippin' with lint on his shirt...
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habs hire j martin as hc.
And when he doesn't win a Stanley Cup within the first 2 months of the season, some idiot Montreal sportswriter will call for his head.

(yes I'm fully aware you can't win a stanley cup in the first 2 months of the season)
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and by first two months you mean before the puck drops on opening night?

i also have to wonder about the gm position, with roy turning down the aves job i have too wonder. not saying i know a think but it strikes me as odd...
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