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Old 10-09-2009, 12:50 PM
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Something must have snapped...he looks like such a friendly guy.

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Old 10-09-2009, 12:56 PM
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Slap

There is never, ever a reason for someone to slap a child or infant. If this crazy coot struck one of my children, I would have to let my rage get the best of me and floor him. I might get arrested, but fathers justice would prevail. I would let him turn the other cheek.

Case closed.
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There is never, ever a reason for someone to slap a child or infant.
Exactly. You're just supposed to shake them really hard.
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It was in Stone Mountain so probably it was a UT or Georgia Tech shirt

Or Morehouse
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:44 PM
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not to shift the blame from the scary old man. but if mommy dearest had any semblance of control over her hell spawn this wouldn't have happened in the first place. this may shock some of you but i don't actually want to listen to your child scream bloody [censored]ing murder for hours on end. if you can't control your child, don't take them in public.

at the end of the day, he was able to get the child to stop crying. she obviously couldn't. in my book that makes her a worse parent than the child abuser.
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not to shift the blame from the scary old man. but if mommy dearest had any semblance of control over her hell spawn this wouldn't have happened in the first place. this may shock some of you but i don't actually want to listen to your child scream bloody [censored]ing murder for hours on end. if you can't control your child, don't take them in public.

at the end of the day, he was able to get the child to stop crying. she obviously couldn't. in my book that makes her a worse parent than the child abuser.
What? Babies cry. It's just a part of what they do. What the [censored] do you want?

Now adults aren't supposed to smack. Especially not something 10% of their size.

I hope I'm missing some sarcasm font or something...
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:57 PM
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... if mommy dearest had any semblance of control over her hell spawn this wouldn't have happened in the first place...
I'm thinking either you have no kids, or else spend/spent very little time with them. The idea that one can necessarily "control" one's offspring is a quaint notion found primarily in fiction.
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not to shift the blame from the scary old man. but if mommy dearest had any semblance of control over her hell spawn this wouldn't have happened in the first place. this may shock some of you but i don't actually want to listen to your child scream bloody [censored]ing murder for hours on end. if you can't control your child, don't take them in public.

at the end of the day, he was able to get the child to stop crying. she obviously couldn't. in my book that makes her a worse parent than the child abuser.
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not to shift the blame from the scary old man. but if mommy dearest had any semblance of control over her hell spawn this wouldn't have happened in the first place. this may shock some of you but i don't actually want to listen to your child scream bloody [censored]ing murder for hours on end. if you can't control your child, don't take them in public.

at the end of the day, he was able to get the child to stop crying. she obviously couldn't. in my book that makes her a worse parent than the child abuser.
Ummm...no.
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What? Babies cry. It's just a part of what they do. What the [censored] do you want?
For you to leave the store with your out of control child.
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For you to leave the store with your out of control child.
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I'm thinking either you have no kids, or else spend/spent very little time with them. The idea that one can necessarily "control" one's offspring is a quaint notion found primarily in fiction.
Sounds like mommy never put her cigarette out on your forearm for squalling for candy at the check out isle. Pussy!
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I'm thinking either you have no kids, or else spend/spent very little time with them. The idea that one can necessarily "control" one's offspring is a quaint notion found primarily in fiction.
its impossible to control a child to the point that they can act in a respectful and polite manner while in a public place?

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don't get me wrong, the nutjob was completely in the wrong and deserves whatever punishment he gets. but that doesn't make chick a good parent. which is worse? abusing a child when they break the rules but instilling them with a firm understanding of right and wrong as well as consiquences to improper action? or providing a child with 0 structure, no discipline and no understanding of right or wrong? certainly would make for an interesting debate. but id consider both to be child abusers.

the day i wrote that i made the mistake of stopping by walmart to pick up a couple things i had forgotten the day before while shopping. in the 20 min i was there 4 children between the ages of 7 and 3 were screaming at the top of their lungs the entire time. their parents just tuned them out. simply moved on as if they were being perfect little angels. as i walked down the cereal isle ahead of me was what i assumed to be the father of 3 girls between the ages of 6 and 10. the girls on either side were randomly grabbing boxes and throwing them on the floor as they went. daddy dearest didn't even acknowledge the behavior and continued on shopping.

this of course would be normal behavior for a child in a grocery store yes?

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its impossible to control a child to the point that they can act in a respectful and polite manner while in a public place?

Sometimes, yes. And if the kid just gets too worked up, the best solution is to get them out of that public place.

don't get me wrong, the nutjob was completely in the wrong and deserves whatever punishment he gets. but that doesn't make chick a good parent. Again I ask, are you a parent? Can you assign yourself the role of being the world's judge of parenting methodology?which is worse? abusing a child when they break the rules but instilling them with a firm understanding of right and wrong as well as consiquences to improper action? or providing a child with 0 structure, no discipline and no understanding of right or wrong? certainly would make for an interesting debate. but id consider both to be child abusers. What exactly is the point of presenting two poor parenting styles and asking which is worse? They're both ineffectual; so what?

the day i wrote that i made the mistake of stopping by walmart to pick up a couple things i had forgotten the day before while shopping. in the 20 min i was there 4 children between the ages of 7 and 3 were screaming at the top of their lungs the entire time. their parents just tuned them out. simply moved on as if they were being perfect little angels. as i walked down the cereal isle ahead of me was what i assumed to be the father of 3 girls between the ages of 6 and 10. the girls on either side were randomly grabbing boxes and throwing them on the floor as they went. daddy dearest didn't even acknowledge the behavior and continued on shopping.

this of course would be normal behavior for a child in a grocery store yes?
Of course this is not "normal behavior," and the dad seems to have responded inappropriately. But if you think even very effective parents don't sometimes have to deal with kids who cannot, for a brief period of time, "be controlled," then I repeat - either you haven't been a parent, or you've been a very, very lucky one.
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