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Old 08-25-2006, 01:37 PM
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Gerald Ford epitomizes the sad state of American health care...

Putting a pacemaker and cardiac stents in a 93 year old. Uh, we all have to meet the Grim Reaper sometime. Just sad.

And we wonder why health care spending is so grotesque.
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Old 08-25-2006, 04:03 PM
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He's an ex-president, tibs!
They get the best healthcare.
Now, if that was Dubya getting a pacemaker, I'd be screaming to high heaven tp just have him put down!
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He's an ex-president, tibs!
They get the best healthcare.
Now, if that was Dubya getting a pacemaker, I'd be screaming to high heaven tp just have him put down!


Another brilliant post from the guy who cries about how the government won't pay for his elderly parent's health care.
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How does this make health care sad? If I could live for ten more years and see more grandchildren because I have the means to do it, I should be able to do so. Right?
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"Sad" is a bit over-the-top (surprise, surprise), but I actually tend to agree with Tibor on this one. Throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars at octagenarians and up would have to be considered a questionable gesture by most reasonable people. I'm pretty healthy and follow a solid pattern of nutritional intake. I can't envision myself artificially extending my life in this manner. I'm not sure what the repercussions are if we can extend the average "healthy" human's life-span to 120 years when he is not really productive after 70. That's a lot of time of livin' off the Man. Don't know what Gerald Ford's situation is, but I imagine it's taxpayer funding to keep him going, and that's what it is going to be for a lot of folks.
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Old 08-25-2006, 08:13 PM
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How does this make health care sad? If I could live for ten more years and see more grandchildren because I have the means to do it, I should be able to do so. Right?

Well... odds are that Gerald isn't ging to make 103.

And.. no.. I don't want to make theat 1 vs 3 vs 5 vs 10 decision...

But... at some point.. I mean... theres a 50% cahnce he's gonna croke just from the surgery, no?

Anyway.. Tibor makes a good example with a reasonably extreme case...
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Putting a pacemaker and cardiac stents in a 93 year old. Uh, we all have to meet the Grim Reaper sometime. Just sad.

And we wonder why health care spending is so grotesque.
I agree.
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