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Yep. He's a politically-savvy empty suit, peddeling "progressive" policies that have failed every time they've ever been tried...which is why voters under 30 who are ignorant of history love him.
Bill Clinton had a pretty good line in Montana this weekend:

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Since the room was full of Democrats -- what few there are in Montana -- Clinton went on to use the moment to poke a little fun at the Republicans, saying, "We have gotten more votes, gotten more money raised, gotten more people involved of all ages in this primary than anything I have ever seen. And I think that part of the reason, really, we owe a great debt of gratitude to the president and his allies in Congress for that. Because, you know, these guys were saying all these crazy things for decades, but the Democrats were always there to backstop them and keep 'em for just putting 'em off the edge until 2001 -- when for the first time after listening to this for decades they actually got to see what it would be like if the Republicans were in control of both the White House and both houses of the Congress. And low and behold, they actually meant what they were saying all those years. And they just drove the truck off the cliff."
Political Radar: Bill Clinton Promises No Matter the Outcome, His Family Will Stand Behind the Nominee
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Personally, out of all three candidates; I like him the most, really I like his positive energy.

He's still young, and bit brash - of course I've heard "he doesnt have the experience"... then again who (aside from Grover Cleveland) has walked into the oval office saying "yep, done this before".
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Personally, out of all three candidates; I like him the most, really I like his positive energy.

He's still young, and bit brash - of course I've heard "he doesnt have the experience"... then again who (aside from Grover Cleveland) has walked into the oval office saying "yep, done this before".
Lincoln's experience? 2 years in the House

Nixon's? 8 years as VP

'Nuff said.
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Lincoln's experience? 2 years in the House

Nixon's? 8 years as VP

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WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama called himself an "imperfect messenger" in his victory speech in North Carolina last Tuesday. That was a refreshing touch of humility, but it was also a fact. The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee is far from perfect. But he has demonstrated the most mysterious and precious gift in politics, which is grace under pressure.

Obama has remained "Mr. Cool," even when his campaign seemed to be blowing up around him. He didn't do the politically expedient things: He didn't wear his patriotism on his lapel with an American flag pin; he didn't promptly disown his race-baiting former pastor, Jeremiah Wright; he didn't apologize for comments by his wife Michelle that many Americans found unpatriotic. You can say what you like about the substance of these positions, but the interesting fact is that Obama didn't flinch.
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(CNN) ? James Carville has been one of Hillary Clinton's most energetic defenders, but on Monday he all but declared Barack Obama will become the Democratic nominee for president.

Speaking to students at Furman University in Greenville, South Carolina, Carville argued Clinton should stay in through the final nominating contest in early June, but said the Democratic tide appears to be moving in Obama's direction.

"I still hear some dogs barking," Carville said, according to The State newspaper. "I'm for Senator Clinton, but I think the great likelihood is that Obama will be the nominee."

"As soon as I determine when that is, I'll send him a check," he added.
Asked about who might share a ticket with Obama, Carville floated Clinton's name, as well as that of Clinton ally Gen. Wesley Clark. Carville also mentioned Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius and New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg as possible running mates, according the Greenville News.
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