Barack Obama (election coverage only-official)

[buckeyeboy]

Originally Posted by daddyphatsacs

Then again, the American public isn't very hard to sway.......Bush somehow garnered the popular vote once.

Kind of funny that you characterize titling a thread with Obama's full name as a lame pot shot, yet you're not above making such jabs at the American public or our current president.

[Best Buckeye]

Originally Posted by daddyphatsacs

If our country is shallow enough to not vote for someone because of their color, gender, or the fact that the candidate has a middle name that is shared with a dead former dictator, it's sad. Then again, the American public isn't very hard to sway.......Bush somehow garnered the popular vote once.

It has nothing to do with our country, but you know as well as I do that some people will vote for or against some one for any reason. Name , race, religion, name, because the dog barked at him on TV. You name it it has happened.

[BuckBackHome]

No. At least not this time round.

For several reasons:

1. He is a senator. Name for me the last President to come straight from the Senate.

2. He is too green still.

3. He has not taken a definitive position on anything at this point. As trite as it sounds, he has talked the talk, but he has not walked the walk.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by Best Buckeye

It has nothing to do with our country, but you know as well as I do that some people will vote for or against some one for any reason. Name , race, religion, name, because the dog barked at him on TV. You name it it has happened.

wow you must really think people will vote against him because of his name

[Best Buckeye]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

wow you must really think people will vote against him because of his name

There may be 2 or 3 . The point being there will be . and thank you for noticing.

[Flocka]

Originally Posted by BuckBackHome

1. He is a senator. Name for me the last President to come straight from the Senate.

J.F.K.

[daddyphatsacs]

Originally Posted by buckeyeboy

Kind of funny that you characterize titling a thread with Obama's full name as a lame pot shot, yet you're not above making such jabs at the American public or our current president.

Since that seems to be the going rate these days, I might as well hope on board. Nearly every 2008 thread I read reverts back to a shot at Clinton or Obama, so why not remind those who live glass houses that they shouldn't throw stones? I do admire your astute attention to detail though, I was waiting for someone to mention the irony of my statement.

FWIW wasn't Lincoln inexperienced when he was elected president?

[BuckBackHome]

Originally Posted by bigballin2987

J.F.K.

Exactly. At the time of this next election it will have been almost 50 years since that last happened.

[Flocka]

Originally Posted by BuckBackHome

Exactly. At the time of this next election it will have been almost 50 years since that last happened.

Agreed, just answering your question.

[BrutusBobcat]

Are Obama supporters really worried about the middle name thing? Seriously, everyone knows that only assassins, serial killers and southern quarterbacks are called by their full name in the media. Everyone else gets a pass.

[Flocka]

Originally Posted by BrutusBobcat

Are Obama supporters really worried about the middle name thing? Seriously, everyone knows that only assassins, serial killers and southern quarterbacks are called by their full name in the media. Everyone else gets a pass.

You left out rapists.

[BuckeyeMike80]

Originally Posted by BrutusBobcat

everyone knows that only assassins, serial killers and southern quarterbacks are called by their full name in the media. Everyone else gets a pass.

Isn't that quote from a movie???

[Taosman]

This country was founded by Puritans and that influence runs old and deep!

for further reading on Puritan Values
http://www.itsuckstobejoe.com/Jdn/writing/purtain.html

[Best Buckeye]

The first comparison:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08.html?sub=AR

"Yet if Clinton and Obama present different profiles, they are, in certain respects, very much alike.
Both have displayed an unusually sophisticated and apparently genuine understanding of the role of religious faith in American politics. Both pride themselves on their ability, proven in their home states, to win over political moderates and voters not tethered to ideology.
And the woman who would become the nation's first female president and the man who would become its first African American president know how important the men and women of the white middle class will be to the outcome of the next election. Such voters will probably determine if either of them gets to become a national trailblazer -- and also if any other Democrat can find a way to get in the middle of their fight."

[GoBucks89]

I don't think he can win the nomination because I think Hillary will be too strong. He's carving out a position on the left side of the party but Edwards has already taken up residence there and it might be difficult to gain any traction against Hillary when many voters will hear the same things they've already heard from Edwards. To be sure, Obama has great PR skills. However, in primary debates I believe Hillary will have more substantive answers and I think Obama will struggle to counter them. However, Obama may end up being the Howard Dean of this election, dragging the other candidates farther left than they had originally planned to go.