Arizona Senator John McCain (official)

[Buckeye86]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

care to elaborate?

General Patraeus has got it covered:

Petraeus, who is preparing to testify to Congress next month on the Iraq war, said in an interview that "no one" in the U.S. and Iraqi governments "feels that there has been sufficient progress by any means in the area of national reconciliation," or in the provision of basic public services.

Link

[RoscoeParrish]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

It's the CORPORATIONS dammit!! Where's my goddamn V for Vendetta mask!!

Whatever, mock me if you so please, it doesn't bother me.

But the point I made on that issue was: just because it's not being covered in the media does not mean that it's (deaths in Iraq, etc...) not happening in large numbers.

Your other two points were sufficiently answered by the other two guys though, I feel.

[ekeen]

Originally Posted by tibor75

Amazing..."misspeaking" about the same fact 3 times in less than 2 weeks.

Maybe he should give a speech and clear everything up.

Originally Posted by RoscoeParrish

No, it means our corporate media sucks [censored]ing balls.

Here you go. This may make you feel better. Just follow the link.

English: Al Jazeera

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMike80

It's the CORPORATIONS dammit!! Where's my goddamn V for Vendetta mask!!



Betcha there have been fewer deaths in Sadr City than in our Nation's Capital (especially in the Anacostia area or Detroit or NYC or Chicago or....) in the past month or even 6 months....a recent issue doesn't exactly mean failure, especially since it's happened before and happened during Saddam's time too.

care to elaborate?

Jesus Mike - put the same number of soldiers with automatic weapons on the streetcorners in crack neighborhoods in D.C. and I'd guess we'd have less murders too. So the [censored] what?

[DGADBTWSOM]

No offense, just thought it would be funny if I saw this on a lawn.

[CookyPuss]

Did McCain violate McCain-Feingold? The DNC thinks so and is filing a complaint in court as the FEC is not ruling. Wouldn't that be the definition of irony?

The Democratic Party | Democratic Party Filing Suit with District Court

[RoscoeParrish]

Originally Posted by ekeen

Here you go. This may make you feel better. Just follow the link.

English: Al Jazeera

Real cute, ekeen. You're so witty.

[Gatorubet]

Originally Posted by DGADBTWSOM

No offense, just thought it would be funny if I saw this on a lawn.

[Steve19]

Originally Posted by ekeen

Maybe he should give a speech and clear everything up.

Here you go. This may make you feel better. Just follow the link.

English: Al Jazeera

I recently got challenged to watch the Al Jazeera television newscast for a couple of weeks, side by side with CNN, and then decide which service provided more objective, less-biased, and more informative news.

Gotta tell you, ekeen, the results blew me away. They ran programs showing how Palestinian kids were instigating most of the problems in the West Bank by attacking the Israelis and bringing schools and other kids into harm's way. They showed the rocket attacks and squarely pointed at Palestinian leadership as responsible for not stopping them. There were a number of programs showing balanced coverage of things like the Iranian speedboats approaching US ships. One program interviewed moderate Muslims in the middle east who rejected al-Qaeda. They even had a very good story on John McCain, his record as a politician who works across party lines, his heroism in the VietNam war, and his family's military history.

They have recruited top BBC and CNN personalities to broadcast the news and were surprisingly more comprehensive in their coverage and the insights they provided of world news. If you prefer the "33% to human interest stories and banter, cue laughter, fade to banter between weather girl and presenter" formula, you won't like them.

[sandgk]

Originally Posted by MuckFich06

Did McCain violate McCain-Feingold? The DNC thinks so and is filing a complaint in court as the FEC is not ruling. Wouldn't that be the definition of irony?

The Democratic Party | Democratic Party Filing Suit with District Court

Not the only definition of irony as this story plays out.

Truth be told the DNC probably has meager expectations for winning this point - more to the point it is not clear to me that they really wish to do so.

If this suit fails it still provides the DNC with all the talking points needed to lay out their "McCain was for public financing only before he was against it."

If the DNC wins the suit then it puts a stranglehold on McCain's purse strings even as he is painted back into the corner of abiding by the spirit and intent of McCain-Feingold. Even in that instance McCain's side will have to argue in favor of a position that undercuts his prior maverick advocacy of campaigns free of the taint of big money.

Wonder if, as an ex-military man McCain recognizes a good pincer movement when he sees it - I suspect he does, and knows that there is substantial political flack to be served on this issue, whether the DNC fully outflanks him or not.

[CookyPuss]

Why doesn't John McCain wear a flag pin?

[CookyPuss]

YouTube - Younger Than McCain

Is this going to be one of those new internet phenomenons like "Chuck Norris facts..." or "Al Gore invented..."?

['BusNative]

Washington Post chronicles a number of McCain's badly tempered incidents...

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

McCain: A Question of Temperament

By Michael Leahy
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, April 20, 2008; Page A01

John McCain cupped a fist and began pumping it, up and down, along the side of his body. It was a gesture familiar to a participant in the closed-door meeting of the Senate committee who hoped that it merely signaled, as it sometimes had in the past, McCain's mounting frustration with one of his colleagues.

But when McCain leaned toward Charles E. Grassley and slowly said, "My friend . . ." it seemed clear that ugliness was looming: While the plural "my friends" was usually a warm salutation from McCain, "my friend" was often a prelude to his most caustic attacks. Grassley, an Iowa Republican with a reputation as an unwavering legislator, calmly held his ground. McCain became angrier, his fist pumping even faster.

It was early 1992, and the occasion was an informal gathering of a select committee investigating lingering issues about Vietnam War prisoners and those missing in action, most notably whether any American servicemen were still being held by the Vietnamese. It is unclear precisely what issue set off McCain that day. But at some point, he mocked Grassley to his face and used a profanity to describe him. Grassley stood and, according to two participants at the meeting, told McCain, "I don't have to take this. I think you should apologize...

[Steve19]

Much of the discussion in the Obama thread has focused on McCain and his "straight talk" and knowledge of the economy. As these concern McCain, I post these here. Ms South Carolina makes a cameo appearance in the second video to help McCain answer a question from Ron Paul (I think).

In fairness, if I get a chance, I am going to try to find a couple like this for Obama and Clinton.

YouTube - John McCain vs. John McCain

YouTube - John McCain & Miss Teen SC on...

[Steve19]

Originally Posted by 'BusNative

Washington Post chronicles a number of McCain's badly tempered incidents...

washingtonpost.com - nation, world, technology and Washington area news and headlines

The article disappeared but is available here today (link). In case it disappears, it is a long article that includes some people saying that McCain's temper would make him a liability in international affairs.

Others, though disagree, including former Democrat Joe Lieberman. Here is a continuation of the discussion that started in 'BusNative's post but, now that the link no longer works, casts McCain in an unfairly biased light.

It is very possible that what angered McCain is that Grassley wanted to abandon any possible POWs remaining in VietNam. I think a lot of us would have backed him up on that one.

McCain refused and stood to face Grassley. "There was some shouting and shoving between them, but no punches," recalls a spectator, who said that Nebraska Democrat Bob Kerrey helped break up the altercation.

Grassley said recently that "it was a very long period of time" before he and McCain spoke to each other again, though he declined, through a spokesman, to discuss the specifics of the incident.

Since the beginning of McCain's public life, the many witnesses to his temper have had strikingly different reactions to it. Some depict McCain, now the presumptive Republican nominee for president, as an erratic hothead incapable of staying cool in the face of what he views as either disloyalty to him or irrational opposition to his ideas. Others praise a firebrand who is resolute against the forces of greed and gutlessness.

"Does he get angry? Yes," said Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman, a Connecticut independent who supports McCain's presidential bid. "But it's never been enough to blur his judgment....If anything, his passion and occasional bursts of anger have made him more effective."